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Posted on July 27, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Rosalita by Bruce SpringsteenWhat I’m reading: The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid by Bill Bryson I love Allena Tapia’s latest blog post over on About.com. In it, she outlines how to be a profitable freelancer. Given that she herself has just topped the $100K mark, I’m apt to listen….

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Weekend Re-entry

Posted on July 26, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Modern Leper by Frightened RabbitWhat I’m reading: The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid by Bill Bryson Great day Friday – thanks to both Devon and Jenn for a terrific time. Meeting with you guys underscores the importance of having like-minded writers in your life. We get each other. Had…

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How and Where to Look

Posted on July 23, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Cherry Bomb by John MellancampWhat I’m reading: The Devil in the White City by Erik Larsen Great day yesterday. I managed one small project, got an article roughed in, and started lining up interviews for the newly-scored article. And despite my fears, the government agency I had to talk to wrote…

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Your Next To-do List

Posted on July 22, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Floating in the Forth by Frightened Rabbit Yesterday felt like a massive wheel-spinning. Playing dodge on the phone with interview subjects has never appealed, and much less so when I’m under deadline. So today is aggressive follow-up. By aggressive I mean I become more pushy and a little more of a…

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Where’s the Kaboom?

Posted on July 21, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Handle with Care by The Traveling Wilburys I’m channeling Marvin the Martian today as I look back at yesterday morning. Really. Just the morning was weird, but what a weird morning. Like an unexploded bomb ticking away somewhere (hence the Marvin reference, all you Bugs fans). Flash back to Monday around…

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Mixed Messages

Posted on July 20, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: I and Love and You by The Avett Brothers Yesterday was a bit of a challenge. I was sporting a whale-sized headache (sinuses yet again) and I finished a ton of work early enough to be tricked into thinking my day was over at 2 pm. Alas, the best laid plans……..

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Filling Up the Summer

Posted on July 19, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: She’s Mine by Brett Dennen Was it really too hot to move this weekend? Not much of a break when your plans to enjoy the outdoors run into a wall of heat and humidity. I managed a cup of iced chai at Starbucks and a flea market/farmers market with my daughter….

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Lazy, Hazy Days

Posted on July 16, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Silence, You by A Plastic Rose I slept in! Yes! Well, I’d like to teach myself how to sleep really in, like say nine or so. My “sleeping in” resembles 7:30 instead of 6:30. I can’t help it. I love getting up early in the summer. Too much day to enjoy….

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Covering the Freelance Tush

Posted on July 15, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Old, Old Fashioned by Frightened Rabbit What a day yesterday, in a good way. I accomplished more than I thought I could manage in nine hours. One article, three blog posts, two smaller projects, and a poem for my writing group. I didn’t get a post for this blog ready, but…

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Pushy Client Tricks

Posted on July 14, 2010 by lwidmer

What’s on the iPod: Ants Marching by The Dave Matthews BandWhat I’m reading upstairs: Death Comes for the Archbishop by Willa Cather Another uber-special moment yesterday brought to me by the IRS. I have to give them credit – they’re exceptionally nice on the phone, and their letters have lost the judgmental attitude I once…

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  1. Devon Ellington Avatar
    Devon Ellington
    July 14, 2010

    It's in the initial contract — how many revisions are included in the price, what constitutes "revision" and that change of direction/parameters result in being billed at the hourly rate.

    That's only the first step. When they try to push you, you have to stand firm. The contract is only as good as its enforcement. If they're going to try to screw you, you don't want them as a client anyway.

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  2. Lori Avatar
    Lori
    July 14, 2010

    Exactly. It's when contracts become the most important paper you'll ever possess. I believe this was an informal contract over email, but I contend that even that has spelled out the expectations enough for the writer to say this is a new project. I'm glad he stood his ground. He's too talented for that.

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  3. Cathy Avatar
    Cathy
    July 14, 2010

    I agree with Devon. All my projects are in writing in either the form of a proposal that they sign or a Statement of Work that they confirm acceptance in writing. Both outline the Scope of Services and state services outside the scope incur an additional fee.

    I don't find as much push-back in that scenario as I do the client that likes to call with the "oh could you just look this over and give me your thoughts" or some other "off-the-cuff" request. When I tell them I would be happy to and here is my consulting fee, that usually stops the conversation.

    If I don't treat my business as a business, why should the client?

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  4. Jake P Avatar
    Jake P
    July 14, 2010

    I'll add this: One of my best clients (a custom magazine publisher) will *preemptively* say, "Jake, Client A changed his mind on what he wants the angle of the story to be. Can you rewrite the first three paragraphs and the kicker, and we'll pay you an extra $XXX."

    They don't try to skeeze me out of a revision that deviates from the original assignment. It's a respectful, respectable way of doing business, and that's why I like working with them, even though their deadlines are sometimes pretty outrageous. It's also a behavior I emulate when contracting stuff out to graphic or web designers.

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  5. Valerie Avatar
    Valerie
    July 14, 2010

    Oh, yes. Mostly I run into this with clients who are new at working with copywriters or new to working with me. Some clients just try to squeeze all they can from you, fairness be damned. They're looking for a doormat. If I suspect this is going on, I ask how many writers they've worked with recently. If they've been running through freelancers like water, chances are they pull these shenanigans with everyone.

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  6. Wendy Avatar
    Wendy
    July 14, 2010

    My most recent problem with this came from the client's posse. It's unnerving to get emails from a couple of people, I don't know, discussing a project that I recently worked on and asking for different revisions. Interestingly enough, the changes they wanted were off-base from what the client, who hired me, asked for. Disaster in the making.

    I was tempted to reply to the posse members stating my case, but I thought it over and decided it wasn't worth it. I just responded to the client- the one who hired me in the first place. I expressed my concerns to them adding copies of the emails from the unidentified editing team. This is what happens when too many people get involved. I didn't get any more emails from them and the client took the project as I had written it.

    Revisions are fine if you're making minor changes. If the focus of the project completely changes then it's a whole different rate of pay.

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  7. Ashley Avatar
    Ashley
    July 14, 2010

    Your friend should try going to that same business and making a purchase. Later that week, go back and say "well, I actually wanted this other thing over here in addition to what I bought. You should just give it to me at no additional cost." That'll go over well.

    This is not a get-a-refund-if-you-change-your-mind kind of business. It's not like I can resell the same product to someone else and call it even. Just like that same plumber installing sinks, if you decide you don't want that sink later after all, you're still going to owe him for the labor/time he put into the job.

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  8. Stacey Abler Avatar
    Stacey Abler
    July 14, 2010

    What helps me when dealing with client requests is framing it as you have with the example of the plumber. It sometimes helps to look at it from that way and see unfair the request really is.

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  9. Paula Avatar
    Paula
    July 14, 2010

    I recently had a potential client state (not ask), "If we don't use what you wrote, then we don't have to pay you."

    I said, "That's not how it works. If I put in the time and effort to write something at your request, you pay me regardless of what you do or don't do with it. After all, you don't go into a store walk out with something saying you'll pay them if and when you use it. You pay for what you get."

    Never heard from him again.

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  10. hugh.c.mcbride Avatar
    hugh.c.mcbride
    July 14, 2010

    "Maybe it's because the current corporate mindset is to pile the work on to the skeleton crew that's already overworked."

    Remember that "Little Irksome Things" post from a coupla days? For *way* too many managers these days, the way they "incentivize employees to propel past their goals" is to pile on the work, repeat "we need to do more with less" ad nauseum, and make more than a few passing references to the hordes of unemployed who'd be more than happy to do twice as much as you did yesterday for 1/2 the price.

    Kudos to your friend for bringing a momentary (though unfortunately most likely also a fleeting) glimpse of reality to this client's day.

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  11. Katharine Swan Avatar
    Katharine Swan
    July 14, 2010

    I had a very similar situation a few years ago, and I also refused to rewrite the piece (website copy) according to their new parameters. I also refused to negotiate a new project to do it, because they had given me some trouble with payment — actually stopped responding to emails until I threatened to contact their parent company regarding nonpayment. I don't think I've ever been so relieved to be done with a client.

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  12. Lori Avatar
    Lori
    July 15, 2010

    Cathy, that's exactly the attitude freelancers should adopt – treat your business as a business and clients will (eventually) follow.

    Jake, I can see why they're one of your best clients. And you're right – what you project in negotiations makes a difference.

    Valerie, that speaks to the level of professionalism of that client (and that would be a former client if it were my client). The attitude isn't that of the majority, but it's often enough to notice.

    Wendy, good for you! I too refuse to deal with posses. They can send me whatever they like – it's all going into the trash folder. I work for the person writing the check, not the friends, coworkers, aunts, acquaintances who think they know what they're doing.

    Ashley, very true. In fact, I had one client incident recently in which I was told "We didn't use it and didn't have time to get revisions to you" and as a result, no check. No more. It's pay the bill or get a view of my back as I depart permanently. I cannot work for people who won't pay the bill. Ever. I'd end up resenting them and being pissed at myself. In fact, I've already begun resenting them. That creeps into the work.

    Exactly, Stacey. Even so, if the client's not going to pay, it's not going to matter. Still, getting it out there may deter them or at least make them pause before attempting it with their next writer. Doubtful, but if they get enough pushing back, they'll eventually have to amend the approach.

    You're well rid of that one, Paula. Great way to frame it with him, too.

    Hugh, it sucks that this is indeed the way a lot of businesses are run. However, economies being cyclical, wait until they're on the receiving end. Employees who are overworked now are going to remember the treatment they received when the market picks up again. And even companies have to worry about reputations. I remember sitting in a conference round-table session once, just after the insurance market softened, and laughing as these corporate customers took the insurance company CEOs to task for being such hard-asses when the money was plentiful. Lots of those CEOs lost their customers to smaller players because of their blase attitudes toward their customers. It was sweet payback.

    Katharine, that's what kills me. They have the gall to demand services they haven't paid for and won't treat you like a pro. As Kathy would say, screw them!

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