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Author: lwidmer

Are We Finally Getting It?

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With the great content mill debate still fresh on my mind yesterday, I followed links left behind on Writers Weekly to see what the temperature was among writers across the Web. While there were a number of “Love (insert content mill name)!” posts, there was a groundswell of posts expressing comments like “fed up” or…

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Critical Learning

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Thanks to everyone who chimed in on Friday’s post expressing your opinion on the content mill issue. Deb Ng has agreed to stop by and write a post voicing her side of things, which given her history is exactly what I expected from her. You may not agree with her opinion, but she’s always been…

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The Definitive Word on Content Mills

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There are many reasons why I’ve been an Angela Hoy fan for years. Angela heads up the marvelous Writer’s Weekly site, the online Bible and writer’s manual for the freelance writing profession. Her ability to cut through the BS and give you a clear picture of specific publishers, magazine groups, and “employers” has earned my…

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Passive Marketing the Google Way

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Writing chum Dana Prince has a really cool blog post up about passive marketing. She makes a lot of sense in how valuable clients find us – the Google search. Click on her link in the post and see her suggestions. While she advocates posting to content mills to up your chances of being found…

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Selling Out

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When I posted my enthusiasm over Microsoft’s Office Workspace freebies, I worried I’d be viewed by you readers as selling something. Worse, when an MS employee stopped by to thank me, I felt like a real heel for even bringing it up, despite the fact that I was thrilled to pieces with what I’d found….

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Why You’re Not Cheap

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My favorite Catalyst Blogger Jen has an excellent post up about defending one’s prices to clients. She gives you great advice on defending, not lowering, your prices. I can’t help but think you’re sitting there, new to freelancing or just never comfortable talking price, thinking the client has some justification in debating what you charge….

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Technology that Rocks

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Stand back – I’m about to sound like an advertorial. I’ll admit I’m usually late to the technology dance. The newest gadgets or tools aren’t something I feel I have to have. But I just found some technology that makes my work easier by making it portable – Windows Workspace. Sporting a whole lot of…

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Rate Debate: Do Real Writers Actually Buy Into Low Rates?

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A spirited debate is taking place over at Michelle Rafter’s blog about content mills and rates. I urge you to visit and comment. Surprisingly, both camps have strong defenders. I think I’m now a huge fan of Michelle thanks to her no-nonsense look at the topic and her own thoughts, which echo mine. And naturally,…

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When Quality is Your Trump

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We’ve talked a lot about sticking to your hourly rate and defending it rather than lowering it. So what happens after you hold firm? Typically, those potential clients not interested in paying for quality disappear. But you know what? That’s a good thing, for it now frees up your time to find clients who appreciate…

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A Word to the Cheapskates

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Dear cheap startup, viral marketer, and any other “employer” wanting writing for nothing: I keep seeing your ads all over the Internet. And I hope your responses from actual writers are more of the “you must be joking” variety than people actually foolish enough to think you mean what you say. I’d like to bring…

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  1. Wendy Avatar
    Wendy

    You can't forget my favorite- Let's fluff up the job title/duties to confuse you into thinking your getting a high-paying position. Those "Executive Assistant Associate Editor to Manage Content" is nothing but fru fru to disguise the fact that you're getting pocket change. But, of course, you have an important title, so it should be okay- or so they think.

    I just love those exclamation points; especially when they follow "YOU CAN WORK FROM HOME!!!!!"

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  2. Devon Ellington Avatar
    Devon Ellington

    I have a post up in tandem to this one (unplanned) on integrity when you decide on a job, up on the SDR blog:

    http://thescruffydogreview.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/integrity/

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  3. Katharine Swan Avatar
    Katharine Swan

    Lori, getting an address is a good idea. I should do that more often. Usually I get one even without making this a requirement, but in retrospect it ought to be.

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  4. Paula Avatar
    Paula

    Amen, Lori!

    If i had time to waste, I'd reply to some of those ads just to make sure the idiots get a real writer's perspective on their glorious offers of exposure, unlimited click-through income, and maybe a whole dollar or two in exchange for 5-10 hours worth of time and effort.

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  5. lwidmer Avatar
    lwidmer

    Devon, that's a super blog post. Everyone, go give it a read. It bears repeating that we are how we represent ourselves, and that includes with client projects.

    What, Wendy? You don't want to be Lead Internet Researcher and Marketing Assistant Executive? 😉

    Katharine, the reason I've added that one is because too many times there's no way to contact them should a problem arise (especially a late payment problem). If I don't know where you are, I can't chase the money owed, nor can I locate the appropriate small claims court to gain restitution.

    Save your breath, Paula. They'll just hire the first wanna-be who finds it an honor to be hired by such clowns. I know. It's enough to make me beat my head repeatedly against the keyboard. But my hair keeps getting stuck on the space bar…. LOL

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  6. hugh.c.mcbride Avatar
    hugh.c.mcbride

    Not impressed by exclamation points?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    But I thought those were the punctuation gods' way of infusing sentences with excitement!!!!!!!!!

    Without exclamation points, how can we possibly hope to create a sense of urgency & immediacy?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    I mean, italics, bold, underlining and using all those cool different fonts & colors can only take us so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Without exclamation points, we'd have to go to all that trouble of finding a qualified writer who could create valuable, nuanced & meaningful copy — and do you have any idea how much *that* would cost?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    Wait — what?

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  7. Kimberly Ben Avatar
    Kimberly Ben

    Tell 'em, Lori!:~)

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  8. Poetic Shutterbug Avatar
    Poetic Shutterbug

    Love this post Lori. I just can't believe all the people out there who have no respect for writers whatsoever. It's really infuriating and sad. You've done me proud with this post 🙂

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  9. Lori Avatar
    Lori

    Hugh!!! There you are!!!! I've missed you!!!! How are you?!!!! It's GREAT seeing you, HUGH!!!!! Now don't you feel SPECIAL because of this greeting?????? Yea, didn't think so. :))

    Thanks, PS. 🙂 I'm hoping to make a point not so much with the people who don't pay decent wages, but more with writers who accept that kind of treatment. It IS infuriating and sad, I agree. On both side of the equation.

    I'm on a tear, Kim. You know what I'm like when that happens. 🙂

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  10. Krista Avatar
    Krista

    Speaking of cheapskates…here's an offer I received today.

    Rates are fixed for each writer depending on the quality of their work. Writers are paid based on the quality of their work, and amount of articles that they churn out per day. All rates will be specified with every assignment, so you will know what you are taking on at the outset.

    In general we pay
    1. RATE – $3 to $4 for 500 words – original articles

    2. RATE – $1 for a news rewrite of 350 – 400 words

    3. EDITORS – RATE – $1 to $1.5 per every 500 words (depending on word count, quality of article and duration of deadline)

    In addition to this there are special projects that will have payment rates that may be higher/lower than our usual rates.

    Let me know if you are interested.

    Ummm, yeah, I might be if you multiplied your rates by between 30 and 50. I don't command the rates some of you do, but WTF?? Three dollars for 500 words.

    So in conclusiong…another red flag: using phrases like "churn out" when referring to article writing.

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  11. Krista Avatar
    Krista

    Oops… in conclusion

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  12. Wendy Avatar
    Wendy

    Wow, Krista, that's a hoot of an ad. "Writers are paid for the quality of their work." At $3-$4, no less. Hmm… let me think about this.

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  13. Krista Avatar
    Krista

    Yeah, if you do an awesome job, you'll get $4. If you wrote 8 great articles a day (one an hour), that's…$32????

    I don't even bother responding to these "offers" any more.

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  14. Lori Avatar
    Lori

    Wow, so if I handed them trash, I'd still get $3? If I kill myself to do a great job I get $4? Well, let me think. I really want that large Starbucks chai, but I'm so tired today….

    These are a hoot!

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  15. Irune Avatar
    Irune

    So, so sooooooooo true…

    You can get 3.5$ per article on free, not exclusive content sites.

    Why would somebody ask me to write exclusive, white label, content for them at that rate is a mistery. I think they just end up getting the people who cannot even write to the above mentioned sites because they cannot write in English. Or just produce software spinned articles.

    I probably will never make a living off writing, but at least I won't work for those scammers!

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