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Fighting Words

Posted on April 28, 2009 by lwidmer

From now on I’m taking Eileen’s approach to job listings – I’m not going there. For here’s what happened last week when I did.

The ad was for a business article writer. The poster did write back. Let’s just say for once, price wasn’t the major issue. Here’s the response:

“In most cases, you’d need to Google to find source articles/posts to blend & rewrite to 60% original. Then you would add a few sentences you think will give the piece more quality thinking / a good flow.”

For those of you new to freelancing, that’s called plagiarism. Making it “60% original” does not make it your work. It makes it someone else’s work with edits. You can call it “blending” and “rewriting” all you want, but if it’s not your original copy, you’re stealing it. And don’t think these freaks who post these ads are going to take the heat should the authors sue. You, my friend, are going to be the primary target.

I sent back a response to the poster, who also wanted to pay me a whopping $6 per 420-word page. I made sure to point out the plagiarism concerns that this person should also be considering.

You already know what the response was, don’t you? Yes, the job poster sent a note full of justifications. “I’m afraid you don’t know the entire process, only the set up that I was asking you to handle. There’s quite extensive work that I do to edit and improve what’s you would have given to me. If you had re-worked it to the extent I asked, I then would have had something fairly unique with which to do my own deep embellishes and improvements.”

Whatever. Your own misspellings aside, you’re proposing that your contractors steal someone else’s work, rewrite parts of it, and you’re paying them garbage rates to do so. Put whatever spin you want on it – it’s still illegal and unethical.

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9 thoughts on “Fighting Words”

  1. Eileen Coale says:
    April 28, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Thanks for the link love, Lori. It boggles my mind that so many people think that changing a percentage of the words in an article makes it okay. How do they not get that it’s stealing? As for answering ads in general, even the honest ones, they’re such a cattle call. Usually you’re competing with dozens, if not hundreds, of other responders, most of whom are willing to work for peanuts.

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  2. Lori says:
    April 28, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Eileen, look at the comment I added (just heard back from them). It’s an attempt to justify regurgitating someone else’s work. It’s still unethical and damn if it’s not illegal on some level.

    Reply
  3. Irreverent Freelancer says:
    April 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    I see ads like this all the time too. I’m a writer, not a plagiarizer, dang it!

    Oh, and I’ve been kind of busy, what with work picking up and a weekend that was finally nice. However, I will be giving your Writers’ Worth Day a shout-out as soon as I get a chance. I’m ALL over its intentions.

    Reply
  4. Gabriella F. says:
    April 28, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Note to all the doofuses who’d consider taking this kind of work:

    If this person is this openly unethical at this stage of the game, do you think his ethics will improve when it comes to paying you?

    This is just plain wrong, so let’s get that out of the way first. But even if you’re desparate and rationalizing taking on this kind of assignment for whatever silly reason, it’s a bad business investment for writers! You will be left holding the bag legally and financially.

    Oh, why do we have to keep explaining this to people?

    Reply
  5. Anne Wayman says:
    April 28, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    yep, another scammer out there… sigh

    glad you tried to educate him… it was a him, right? 😉

    Anne Wayman

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  6. Lori says:
    April 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    I can’t tell from the name what gender, Anne.

    Good point, Gabriella. Payment collection would be a problem!

    Kathy, glad to see you around, hon. 🙂

    Reply
  7. Katharine Swan says:
    April 28, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Gabriella – hear, hear!!!

    This kind of thing makes me so angry. Especially his response. As if another round of edits significantly changes the article. Whatever. And besides, if he’s so interested on putting his own spin on it, why is he hiring writers? I know a lie when I smell one.

    Reply
  8. Kirk Petersen says:
    April 29, 2009 at 2:55 am

    So maybe I shouldn’t feel left out by all the jobs I’ve bid on and haven’t heard anything back? Sheesh.

    Reply
  9. Lori says:
    April 29, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Kirk, it’s just brutal out there.

    I love the use of “deep embellishes” and “something fairly unique” to try masking the fact that this is theft. I don’t care how “extensive” your work is, you’re still starting with a piece that ISN’T YOURS.

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  1. Eileen Coale Avatar
    Eileen Coale
    April 28, 2009

    Thanks for the link love, Lori. It boggles my mind that so many people think that changing a percentage of the words in an article makes it okay. How do they not get that it’s stealing? As for answering ads in general, even the honest ones, they’re such a cattle call. Usually you’re competing with dozens, if not hundreds, of other responders, most of whom are willing to work for peanuts.

    Reply
  2. Lori Avatar
    Lori
    April 28, 2009

    Eileen, look at the comment I added (just heard back from them). It’s an attempt to justify regurgitating someone else’s work. It’s still unethical and damn if it’s not illegal on some level.

    Reply
  3. Irreverent Freelancer Avatar
    Irreverent Freelancer
    April 28, 2009

    I see ads like this all the time too. I’m a writer, not a plagiarizer, dang it!

    Oh, and I’ve been kind of busy, what with work picking up and a weekend that was finally nice. However, I will be giving your Writers’ Worth Day a shout-out as soon as I get a chance. I’m ALL over its intentions.

    Reply
  4. Gabriella F. Avatar
    Gabriella F.
    April 28, 2009

    Note to all the doofuses who’d consider taking this kind of work:

    If this person is this openly unethical at this stage of the game, do you think his ethics will improve when it comes to paying you?

    This is just plain wrong, so let’s get that out of the way first. But even if you’re desparate and rationalizing taking on this kind of assignment for whatever silly reason, it’s a bad business investment for writers! You will be left holding the bag legally and financially.

    Oh, why do we have to keep explaining this to people?

    Reply
  5. Anne Wayman Avatar
    Anne Wayman
    April 28, 2009

    yep, another scammer out there… sigh

    glad you tried to educate him… it was a him, right? 😉

    Anne Wayman

    Reply
  6. Lori Avatar
    Lori
    April 28, 2009

    I can’t tell from the name what gender, Anne.

    Good point, Gabriella. Payment collection would be a problem!

    Kathy, glad to see you around, hon. 🙂

    Reply
  7. Katharine Swan Avatar
    Katharine Swan
    April 28, 2009

    Gabriella – hear, hear!!!

    This kind of thing makes me so angry. Especially his response. As if another round of edits significantly changes the article. Whatever. And besides, if he’s so interested on putting his own spin on it, why is he hiring writers? I know a lie when I smell one.

    Reply
  8. Kirk Petersen Avatar
    Kirk Petersen
    April 29, 2009

    So maybe I shouldn’t feel left out by all the jobs I’ve bid on and haven’t heard anything back? Sheesh.

    Reply
  9. Lori Avatar
    Lori
    April 29, 2009

    Kirk, it’s just brutal out there.

    I love the use of “deep embellishes” and “something fairly unique” to try masking the fact that this is theft. I don’t care how “extensive” your work is, you’re still starting with a piece that ISN’T YOURS.

    Reply
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