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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/10/freelance-writing-blog-138.html#comment-26092&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

Great measurement, Paula. If it feels off, don&#039;t.
I agree with you on the tree service dude insisting on cash. Good reason for a receipt, too. Cash transactions are tougher to trace, so it would be tough to get restitution should he have damaged something in the process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/10/freelance-writing-blog-138.html#comment-26092">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>Great measurement, Paula. If it feels off, don&#8217;t.<br />
I agree with you on the tree service dude insisting on cash. Good reason for a receipt, too. Cash transactions are tougher to trace, so it would be tough to get restitution should he have damaged something in the process.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of my very first clients tried the old, &quot;You write this glowing article about my business. You research the markets. You pitch it. I get final review. The magazine pays you and I get all the glory. For free.&quot; Um, no. He thought because I was young and just starting he could pull one over on me. 

The thing is, if anything feels off or sketchy, it probably is unethical at best. Unless you&#039;re a sociopath. 

A friend of the family owns a tree service. A friend of mine hired his company to do a large amount of work. He insisted she pay in CASH. The total was high enough that she had to hit ATMs on two separate days to withdraw the entire amount. I told her the only reason he insisted on cash was to avoid paying taxes. As a fellow IC, I resent that, and would demand an itemized receipt — and let him know it&#039;s because I MIGHT be able to declare a portion of it on my taxes. 

A few years ago, a huge limb fell off a tree out back. I cut the leafy bits and the smaller branches off and had it down to a ~30 foot log. A couple neighbors were going to bring a chain saw over and cut it up, but kept being delayed. So when the neighbor&#039;s yard guy offered to cut it up and haul it off for $50 (or $20 cash), I had him go ahead. Pretty shortsighted of him, considering his &quot;cash discount&quot; would have lost him $30 when the taxes owed on that would be so much less. I paid by check. (Seriously, it was worth more than $50 to me, and his crew had it cleaned up in about 10 minutes. Worth it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my very first clients tried the old, &#8220;You write this glowing article about my business. You research the markets. You pitch it. I get final review. The magazine pays you and I get all the glory. For free.&#8221; Um, no. He thought because I was young and just starting he could pull one over on me. </p>
<p>The thing is, if anything feels off or sketchy, it probably is unethical at best. Unless you&#8217;re a sociopath. </p>
<p>A friend of the family owns a tree service. A friend of mine hired his company to do a large amount of work. He insisted she pay in CASH. The total was high enough that she had to hit ATMs on two separate days to withdraw the entire amount. I told her the only reason he insisted on cash was to avoid paying taxes. As a fellow IC, I resent that, and would demand an itemized receipt — and let him know it&#8217;s because I MIGHT be able to declare a portion of it on my taxes. </p>
<p>A few years ago, a huge limb fell off a tree out back. I cut the leafy bits and the smaller branches off and had it down to a ~30 foot log. A couple neighbors were going to bring a chain saw over and cut it up, but kept being delayed. So when the neighbor&#8217;s yard guy offered to cut it up and haul it off for $50 (or $20 cash), I had him go ahead. Pretty shortsighted of him, considering his &#8220;cash discount&#8221; would have lost him $30 when the taxes owed on that would be so much less. I paid by check. (Seriously, it was worth more than $50 to me, and his crew had it cleaned up in about 10 minutes. Worth it.)</p>
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		By: Gabriella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, now you&#039;ve triggered my thinking. Two in one week? Some &quot;influencer&quot; is getting paid for telling people how to be like them, and this is one of the things they&#039;re suggesting. And you know what? Some stupid writer probably did this for that &quot;influencer.&quot; Ethics today are so out of kilter. Again. Gross.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now you&#8217;ve triggered my thinking. Two in one week? Some &#8220;influencer&#8221; is getting paid for telling people how to be like them, and this is one of the things they&#8217;re suggesting. And you know what? Some stupid writer probably did this for that &#8220;influencer.&#8221; Ethics today are so out of kilter. Again. Gross.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/10/freelance-writing-blog-138.html#comment-26087&quot;&gt;Gabriella&lt;/a&gt;.

ALL the risk. And all the damn work. Really, dude?

I told him it was unethical. I said, &quot;The magazine&#039;s guidelines do not allow for interview sources to control the content they&#039;re paying for.&quot; Never heard from him again. Shocker! LOL

I like your answer better. ;)

Know what else? He was one of TWO people in two weeks to propose that. Seriously, are people completely mad?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/10/freelance-writing-blog-138.html#comment-26087">Gabriella</a>.</p>
<p>ALL the risk. And all the damn work. Really, dude?</p>
<p>I told him it was unethical. I said, &#8220;The magazine&#8217;s guidelines do not allow for interview sources to control the content they&#8217;re paying for.&#8221; Never heard from him again. Shocker! LOL</p>
<p>I like your answer better. 😉</p>
<p>Know what else? He was one of TWO people in two weeks to propose that. Seriously, are people completely mad?</p>
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		By: Gabriella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 11:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, to all the things you said about ethics. It&#039;s also gross and slimy! 

But here&#039;s the other part: Dude wanted to shift all the risk of this assignment on you. If you couldn&#039;t get it sold, well pound sand for all the work you did.

Again with the people wanting stuff for free today!

I want to hear what you said to him, Lori. You left that part out!

I&#039;m hoping it was something like: &quot;I&#039;ve never had a client ask for this arrangement before, and it&#039;s certainly one I&#039;m not comfortable with. OFF YOU GO, MOTHER------&quot;

OK, maybe not that last part. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, to all the things you said about ethics. It&#8217;s also gross and slimy! </p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the other part: Dude wanted to shift all the risk of this assignment on you. If you couldn&#8217;t get it sold, well pound sand for all the work you did.</p>
<p>Again with the people wanting stuff for free today!</p>
<p>I want to hear what you said to him, Lori. You left that part out!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping it was something like: &#8220;I&#8217;ve never had a client ask for this arrangement before, and it&#8217;s certainly one I&#8217;m not comfortable with. OFF YOU GO, MOTHER&#8212;&#8212;&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, maybe not that last part. 🙂</p>
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