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		By: Mentors and Coaches: What Are They Good for? - OnText		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The Truth About Job Board Freelancing (Look at reality, writers!) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Truth About Job Board Freelancing (Look at reality, writers!) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25668</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 16:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25666&quot;&gt;Devon Ellington&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, great point, Devon. I hadn&#039;t thought to look for the same offenders, as it were.

I&#039;d like two t-shirts, please. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25666">Devon Ellington</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, great point, Devon. I hadn&#8217;t thought to look for the same offenders, as it were.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like two t-shirts, please. 😉</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 15:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Price like you mean it&quot; needs to be a mantra, and on tee shirts and billboards.

One of the things I like about looking at the listings (even when I don&#039;t apply) is that I can see where 
there are frequent turnovers (also known as companies to avoid).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Price like you mean it&#8221; needs to be a mantra, and on tee shirts and billboards.</p>
<p>One of the things I like about looking at the listings (even when I don&#8217;t apply) is that I can see where<br />
there are frequent turnovers (also known as companies to avoid).</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25652</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25651&quot;&gt;Dava&lt;/a&gt;.

We must have the same crotchety approach, Dava. ;) Agreed -- it&#039;s all good as long as you&#039;re working. I fall back on magazine pitching. Thankfully I&#039;ve not had to have a fallback approach for a number of years. But it&#039;s there if I need it.

And I&#039;d bet you&#039;re younger than I am. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25651">Dava</a>.</p>
<p>We must have the same crotchety approach, Dava. 😉 Agreed &#8212; it&#8217;s all good as long as you&#8217;re working. I fall back on magazine pitching. Thankfully I&#8217;ve not had to have a fallback approach for a number of years. But it&#8217;s there if I need it.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d bet you&#8217;re younger than I am. 😉</p>
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		By: Dava		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 14:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my crotchety old age, I&#039;ve stopped applying to job board posts (don&#039;t even really look at them anymore) and largely stopped pitching. I don&#039;t want to spend my work hours doing work that I might or might not get paid for doing, and that&#039;s what both pitching and job boards feel like. Of course, if things went south and I found myself desperate for work, I&#039;d revisit those opinions and reconsider the unpaid labor of pitching and applying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my crotchety old age, I&#8217;ve stopped applying to job board posts (don&#8217;t even really look at them anymore) and largely stopped pitching. I don&#8217;t want to spend my work hours doing work that I might or might not get paid for doing, and that&#8217;s what both pitching and job boards feel like. Of course, if things went south and I found myself desperate for work, I&#8217;d revisit those opinions and reconsider the unpaid labor of pitching and applying.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25633</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 12:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25628&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

Whoa, THAT is too controlling! I agree with you -- you are not at her beck and call. How does she know you didn&#039;t tweet that from a dentist&#039;s waiting room or in line at the DMV? She doesn&#039;t. It&#039;s none of her business where you were. That kind of stalking is inappropriate in anyone and way, way out of bounds for a client.

Pity her employees. Imagine the scrutiny they&#039;re under. Egad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25628">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>Whoa, THAT is too controlling! I agree with you &#8212; you are not at her beck and call. How does she know you didn&#8217;t tweet that from a dentist&#8217;s waiting room or in line at the DMV? She doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s none of her business where you were. That kind of stalking is inappropriate in anyone and way, way out of bounds for a client.</p>
<p>Pity her employees. Imagine the scrutiny they&#8217;re under. Egad.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember that time one freelance client basically stalked me on social media? I retweeted something during my lunch break and she emailed saying, &quot;If you have time for social media you have time to return my call.&quot; I am not beholden to her schedule, and was going to call her after lunch. After that email I didn&#039;t. I told her it didn&#039;t feel like a good fit. (Did I mention the call was so she could coach me on how to use their CSM? Um, I&#039;m a writer, not a web editor. I don&#039;t deal with fonts, formatting, photos, or HTML.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that time one freelance client basically stalked me on social media? I retweeted something during my lunch break and she emailed saying, &#8220;If you have time for social media you have time to return my call.&#8221; I am not beholden to her schedule, and was going to call her after lunch. After that email I didn&#8217;t. I told her it didn&#8217;t feel like a good fit. (Did I mention the call was so she could coach me on how to use their CSM? Um, I&#8217;m a writer, not a web editor. I don&#8217;t deal with fonts, formatting, photos, or HTML.)</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25627</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 16:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25626&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

And I appreciate those listings, Paula!

That&#039;s what&#039;s disturbing (well, besides the cruddy pay) -- the language they use. &quot;Positions&quot; itself bothers me because it suggests they&#039;re hiring a bunch of writers. That&#039;s a red flag. The more writers they hire, the less they&#039;ll want to pay each of them.

But you&#039;re right. &quot;Position&quot; implies a job and a job comes with benefits. Worse are the ones that say you must be available for X hours a week. No, I&#039;m freelance. I must meet deadlines that I&#039;ve agreed to, not be on call constantly.

The higher up the client food chain you go, the more those irksome things disappear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25626">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>And I appreciate those listings, Paula!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s disturbing (well, besides the cruddy pay) &#8212; the language they use. &#8220;Positions&#8221; itself bothers me because it suggests they&#8217;re hiring a bunch of writers. That&#8217;s a red flag. The more writers they hire, the less they&#8217;ll want to pay each of them.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right. &#8220;Position&#8221; implies a job and a job comes with benefits. Worse are the ones that say you must be available for X hours a week. No, I&#8217;m freelance. I must meet deadlines that I&#8217;ve agreed to, not be on call constantly.</p>
<p>The higher up the client food chain you go, the more those irksome things disappear.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[About once a week I glance at job listings, mostly to see if I can spot anything for your This Job, Not That Job series of posts.

Over the past couple of years I&#039;ve noticed that a couple of content companies always have ads for the SAME freelance &quot;positions.&quot; (Um, for starters, &quot;position&quot; implies &quot;job,&quot; and jobs require benefits. Freelancers aren&#039;t on staff.) Seeing the same listings from the same place over and over tells me they have a very high turnover. One time I dug deeper - they didn&#039;t pay much at all but wanted the world. No wonder they constantly need to look for new writers and editors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About once a week I glance at job listings, mostly to see if I can spot anything for your This Job, Not That Job series of posts.</p>
<p>Over the past couple of years I&#8217;ve noticed that a couple of content companies always have ads for the SAME freelance &#8220;positions.&#8221; (Um, for starters, &#8220;position&#8221; implies &#8220;job,&#8221; and jobs require benefits. Freelancers aren&#8217;t on staff.) Seeing the same listings from the same place over and over tells me they have a very high turnover. One time I dug deeper &#8211; they didn&#8217;t pay much at all but wanted the world. No wonder they constantly need to look for new writers and editors.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 12:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25623&quot;&gt;Diane&lt;/a&gt;.

Being a cynic isn&#039;t a bad thing, Diane! Thanks for sharing your experience. That does help!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2022/05/freelance-writing-blog-125.html#comment-25623">Diane</a>.</p>
<p>Being a cynic isn&#8217;t a bad thing, Diane! Thanks for sharing your experience. That does help!</p>
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