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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I earned more than $45 per article when I first started freelancing in the pre-internet dark ages. And that was writing profiles and human interest articles for a small, low-budget weekly paper. They gave me solid clips that I used to start working my way up the food chain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I earned more than $45 per article when I first started freelancing in the pre-internet dark ages. And that was writing profiles and human interest articles for a small, low-budget weekly paper. They gave me solid clips that I used to start working my way up the food chain.</p>
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		By: Gabriella		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori, that four solid days for a 1,500 article? That&#039;s awful. I know you. And I know that wasn&#039;t due to you. Ugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, that four solid days for a 1,500 article? That&#8217;s awful. I know you. And I know that wasn&#8217;t due to you. Ugh.</p>
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		By: Sharon Hurley Hall		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[That pay rate was unbelievable, Lori. As a freelancer, you definitely have to work out how much you&#039;re actually earning. An easy job with sa system like the one Gabriella describes can work out to a high hourly rate. Another job that looks good on paper, less so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pay rate was unbelievable, Lori. As a freelancer, you definitely have to work out how much you&#8217;re actually earning. An easy job with sa system like the one Gabriella describes can work out to a high hourly rate. Another job that looks good on paper, less so.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2021/08/freelance-writing-blog-89.html#comment-22034&quot;&gt;Gabriella&lt;/a&gt;.

Gabriella, I absolutely love your reactions to these posts. :)

You sure did make a great decision there. Great system, too. It makes your life, and their lives, easier.   Pretty sweet! And look how that&#039;s turned into more work. How great is that? No apologies -- your example is one we should all be following.

I had a job not long ago that paid $1/word. Great! Except it took me four solid days to finish it. The actual payment based on my time put into it was more like 4 cents a word. That $1/word wasn&#039;t really paying off for me. It turned my $150/hr. rate into a $23/hr. rate.

Conversely, another job I have monthly pays $900. It&#039;s a three- to four-hour investment. So while the pay is lower, I&#039;m actually getting paid more for it because I&#039;m not spinning my wheels for days -- correct my math if it&#039;s wrong, but I&#039;m figuring $225/hr.  Plus, this is the client who gives me special projects on top of that, so I can expect roughly $14K annually from this one client. 

Yea, I&#039;ll keep that one over the first one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2021/08/freelance-writing-blog-89.html#comment-22034">Gabriella</a>.</p>
<p>Gabriella, I absolutely love your reactions to these posts. 🙂</p>
<p>You sure did make a great decision there. Great system, too. It makes your life, and their lives, easier.   Pretty sweet! And look how that&#8217;s turned into more work. How great is that? No apologies &#8212; your example is one we should all be following.</p>
<p>I had a job not long ago that paid $1/word. Great! Except it took me four solid days to finish it. The actual payment based on my time put into it was more like 4 cents a word. That $1/word wasn&#8217;t really paying off for me. It turned my $150/hr. rate into a $23/hr. rate.</p>
<p>Conversely, another job I have monthly pays $900. It&#8217;s a three- to four-hour investment. So while the pay is lower, I&#8217;m actually getting paid more for it because I&#8217;m not spinning my wheels for days &#8212; correct my math if it&#8217;s wrong, but I&#8217;m figuring $225/hr.  Plus, this is the client who gives me special projects on top of that, so I can expect roughly $14K annually from this one client. </p>
<p>Yea, I&#8217;ll keep that one over the first one.</p>
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		By: Gabriella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, ffs.

How low would I go? As you did, Lori, in evaluating that crappy job, I think writers have to look at their hourly rate.

I have a client for which I write seven 750-1,000 articles a month--been doing it since 2008; he&#039;s my longest-term client--and I get paid $2,147. Sounds low. It&#039;s not.

I have a great system for these articles. I interview four sources, each for a half hour, who speak to all seven topics. So that&#039;s two hours. Maybe add another hour for finding and arranging interviews with the sources. Then it takes me a day to write all the articles and about more two hours to proof them.

So that&#039;s two business days max on this work at more than $1K per day, which roughs out to well over $100 per hour.

What needs to be there to take a lower rate? Great systems. If you&#039;ve been at this a while and have great systems that allow you to work really, really efficiently, you can entertain offers that don&#039;t, on their face, hit that $1 per word writing baseline most people use.

By the way, I took that client three years after I began freelancing, and I took it after turning the guy down first. He offered me too little. I stuck to my guns and politely told him I couldn&#039;t take such low pay (I don&#039;t even remember what it was at the time). A few months after I turned him down, he came back and said he&#039;d pay me what I asked. It was lower than I&#039;d wanted at the time, but I thought I could do the work efficiently, and I saw value in having regular, monthly work instead of chasing one-off assignments.

Best decision I ever made. Over the past 13 years, he&#039;s broadened the work he gives me. I also moderate a monthly webinar for him, for which I also have a great system to get the work done. I choose the topics, find two panelists from among the sources I&#039;ve cultivated over the past 13 years, and then moderate the hour-long webinar. About three hours of my time, for which I earn $600. I oversee another writer&#039;s work for that client for $150 a month. Takes an hour to review her proposed topics and review the turned-in copy to provide feedback.

Long story short, I&#039;ve earned more than $300K from this guy (much more, but that&#039;s using a $2k per month baseline for 13 years). I was able to do that by sticking to my guns on my value and creating great systems.

On the straight-up word-count articles, my lowest is $1 per word. 

How low would I go? Hard to say. But it ain&#039;t $15 an hour. Sheesh.

P.S. Sorry for the long-winded example, but you got me going on this Monday morning!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, ffs.</p>
<p>How low would I go? As you did, Lori, in evaluating that crappy job, I think writers have to look at their hourly rate.</p>
<p>I have a client for which I write seven 750-1,000 articles a month&#8211;been doing it since 2008; he&#8217;s my longest-term client&#8211;and I get paid $2,147. Sounds low. It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>I have a great system for these articles. I interview four sources, each for a half hour, who speak to all seven topics. So that&#8217;s two hours. Maybe add another hour for finding and arranging interviews with the sources. Then it takes me a day to write all the articles and about more two hours to proof them.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s two business days max on this work at more than $1K per day, which roughs out to well over $100 per hour.</p>
<p>What needs to be there to take a lower rate? Great systems. If you&#8217;ve been at this a while and have great systems that allow you to work really, really efficiently, you can entertain offers that don&#8217;t, on their face, hit that $1 per word writing baseline most people use.</p>
<p>By the way, I took that client three years after I began freelancing, and I took it after turning the guy down first. He offered me too little. I stuck to my guns and politely told him I couldn&#8217;t take such low pay (I don&#8217;t even remember what it was at the time). A few months after I turned him down, he came back and said he&#8217;d pay me what I asked. It was lower than I&#8217;d wanted at the time, but I thought I could do the work efficiently, and I saw value in having regular, monthly work instead of chasing one-off assignments.</p>
<p>Best decision I ever made. Over the past 13 years, he&#8217;s broadened the work he gives me. I also moderate a monthly webinar for him, for which I also have a great system to get the work done. I choose the topics, find two panelists from among the sources I&#8217;ve cultivated over the past 13 years, and then moderate the hour-long webinar. About three hours of my time, for which I earn $600. I oversee another writer&#8217;s work for that client for $150 a month. Takes an hour to review her proposed topics and review the turned-in copy to provide feedback.</p>
<p>Long story short, I&#8217;ve earned more than $300K from this guy (much more, but that&#8217;s using a $2k per month baseline for 13 years). I was able to do that by sticking to my guns on my value and creating great systems.</p>
<p>On the straight-up word-count articles, my lowest is $1 per word. </p>
<p>How low would I go? Hard to say. But it ain&#8217;t $15 an hour. Sheesh.</p>
<p>P.S. Sorry for the long-winded example, but you got me going on this Monday morning!</p>
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