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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18921&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

Paula, that&#039;s absurd, isn&#039;t it? To me, that says what they&#039;d be like to work with. Frankly, anyone who isn&#039;t willing to pay decently for good writing is showing their lack of respect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18921">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>Paula, that&#8217;s absurd, isn&#8217;t it? To me, that says what they&#8217;d be like to work with. Frankly, anyone who isn&#8217;t willing to pay decently for good writing is showing their lack of respect.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. That stinker makes the response I had today, from what I thought was a respectable market, look almost okay. It’s not. 

This one wanted at least one 2600-3000-word article per week, at 6-cents per word. A “paid” test was required, but they only pay for tests they publish. Hard pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That stinker makes the response I had today, from what I thought was a respectable market, look almost okay. It’s not. </p>
<p>This one wanted at least one 2600-3000-word article per week, at 6-cents per word. A “paid” test was required, but they only pay for tests they publish. Hard pass.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18918&quot;&gt;Mary Johnston&lt;/a&gt;.

Mary, that&#039;s a great line -- &quot;Who do you think you&#039;re hiring, some high school kid?&quot;

I hear you. Yes, you can rewrite from the original idea as long as it&#039;s a completely new spin. That&#039;s the right way to do it. Otherwise, &quot;rewriting&quot; is nothing more than changing a few sentences, which is nothing more than theft.

I remember one job posting years ago where they wanted someone to do a rewrite. I responded that it was basically plagiarism they were suggesting. And they responded (and I&#039;ll never forget this): &quot;Not at all. We expect each article to be 60 percent different.&quot;

Uh, how exactly? That&#039;s still not enough. In fact, why not just hire someone and say &quot;Find a point in this article to expand on&quot; or &quot;I need 1,000 words on X topic.&quot;

Just make it a new assignment. We write about the same ideas all the time. The amount of work it takes to &quot;rewrite&quot; something would be similar to just starting with a fresh slant on the same topic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18918">Mary Johnston</a>.</p>
<p>Mary, that&#8217;s a great line &#8212; &#8220;Who do you think you&#8217;re hiring, some high school kid?&#8221;</p>
<p>I hear you. Yes, you can rewrite from the original idea as long as it&#8217;s a completely new spin. That&#8217;s the right way to do it. Otherwise, &#8220;rewriting&#8221; is nothing more than changing a few sentences, which is nothing more than theft.</p>
<p>I remember one job posting years ago where they wanted someone to do a rewrite. I responded that it was basically plagiarism they were suggesting. And they responded (and I&#8217;ll never forget this): &#8220;Not at all. We expect each article to be 60 percent different.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, how exactly? That&#8217;s still not enough. In fact, why not just hire someone and say &#8220;Find a point in this article to expand on&#8221; or &#8220;I need 1,000 words on X topic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just make it a new assignment. We write about the same ideas all the time. The amount of work it takes to &#8220;rewrite&#8221; something would be similar to just starting with a fresh slant on the same topic.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18917&quot;&gt;Jenn Mattern&lt;/a&gt;.

Jenn, thanks for your response. I agree. That line is just heinous.

What ticks me off about it is the many messages they send with that one line. They want &quot;professional&quot; writers, but aren&#039;t willing to pay enough for actual professional writers, so they&#039;re stuck with people they think will plagiarize. They&#039;re saying that their workload is such that people might be tempted to plagiarize to meet the demand. They&#039;re saying that they don&#039;t trust their writers. They&#039;re saying they&#039;re coming into this relationship not respecting you at the outset. And they&#039;re saying they don&#039;t trust you without ever meeting you.

That&#039;s how it reads to me. Who knows what they&#039;re actually saying. I&#039;ll never know because I&#039;ll never waste time with them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18917">Jenn Mattern</a>.</p>
<p>Jenn, thanks for your response. I agree. That line is just heinous.</p>
<p>What ticks me off about it is the many messages they send with that one line. They want &#8220;professional&#8221; writers, but aren&#8217;t willing to pay enough for actual professional writers, so they&#8217;re stuck with people they think will plagiarize. They&#8217;re saying that their workload is such that people might be tempted to plagiarize to meet the demand. They&#8217;re saying that they don&#8217;t trust their writers. They&#8217;re saying they&#8217;re coming into this relationship not respecting you at the outset. And they&#8217;re saying they don&#8217;t trust you without ever meeting you.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how it reads to me. Who knows what they&#8217;re actually saying. I&#8217;ll never know because I&#8217;ll never waste time with them.</p>
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		By: Mary Johnston		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18917&quot;&gt;Jenn Mattern&lt;/a&gt;.

YES. I use sites like Upwork to fill in the gaps and pick up one-off jobs (though lately I&#039;ve moved away from them as they&#039;ve started charging 20% of the fee) and I loathe the &quot;no plagiarism&quot; thing. Who do you think you&#039;re hiring, some high school kid? 

IF I respond to a &quot;rewriting&quot; job, which I very rarely do, and only if the pay is reasonable enough to make it worth my time, I skim the original article for tone and points and write something entirely new from my own research and sources. 

I honestly believe many of those types of clients are hacks and amateurs themselves, and every single time I&#039;ve lowered my standards to work with someone like that (early in my business) I ended up having to pursue payment or being ghosted. No-thank-you-very-much. 

I have much better luck with clients I&#039;ve met through a Facebook group and referrals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2020/06/freelance-writing-blog-13.html#comment-18917">Jenn Mattern</a>.</p>
<p>YES. I use sites like Upwork to fill in the gaps and pick up one-off jobs (though lately I&#8217;ve moved away from them as they&#8217;ve started charging 20% of the fee) and I loathe the &#8220;no plagiarism&#8221; thing. Who do you think you&#8217;re hiring, some high school kid? </p>
<p>IF I respond to a &#8220;rewriting&#8221; job, which I very rarely do, and only if the pay is reasonable enough to make it worth my time, I skim the original article for tone and points and write something entirely new from my own research and sources. </p>
<p>I honestly believe many of those types of clients are hacks and amateurs themselves, and every single time I&#8217;ve lowered my standards to work with someone like that (early in my business) I ended up having to pursue payment or being ghosted. No-thank-you-very-much. </p>
<p>I have much better luck with clients I&#8217;ve met through a Facebook group and referrals.</p>
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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yikes. This is gross all-around. But the plagiarism checker line is a huge pet peeve of mine. 

Not only does it say they know they aren&#039;t paying for an actual professional... not only is it disrespectful as hell... but it says they don&#039;t know WTF they&#039;re doing in the first place.

Any client who thinks they only have an issue if a writer rips off someone else&#039;s material word-for-word is going to end up in hot water eventually. They&#039;re the same ones who are fine with &quot;rewriting&quot; rather than actual writing, and deem something &quot;original&quot; if enough words are change. They have no comprehension of copyright law and the fact that derivative works (which a rewrite would be, even though it would pass a plagiarism checker) are still copyright violations. 

I don&#039;t know why that detail ticks me off as much as it does, but it does. And it&#039;s not worth working with clients that ignorant about a vital aspect of their business, because you don&#039;t want to get caught up in the mess when one of their contributors steals from the wrong person. Never tie your reputation to a client who says something like this unless you&#039;re prepared to lose it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes. This is gross all-around. But the plagiarism checker line is a huge pet peeve of mine. </p>
<p>Not only does it say they know they aren&#8217;t paying for an actual professional&#8230; not only is it disrespectful as hell&#8230; but it says they don&#8217;t know WTF they&#8217;re doing in the first place.</p>
<p>Any client who thinks they only have an issue if a writer rips off someone else&#8217;s material word-for-word is going to end up in hot water eventually. They&#8217;re the same ones who are fine with &#8220;rewriting&#8221; rather than actual writing, and deem something &#8220;original&#8221; if enough words are change. They have no comprehension of copyright law and the fact that derivative works (which a rewrite would be, even though it would pass a plagiarism checker) are still copyright violations. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why that detail ticks me off as much as it does, but it does. And it&#8217;s not worth working with clients that ignorant about a vital aspect of their business, because you don&#8217;t want to get caught up in the mess when one of their contributors steals from the wrong person. Never tie your reputation to a client who says something like this unless you&#8217;re prepared to lose it.</p>
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