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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2018 15:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17731&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

I think how you phrased it is perfect, Paula. A question often allows them to see where the problems lie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17731">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>I think how you phrased it is perfect, Paula. A question often allows them to see where the problems lie.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2018 14:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17720&quot;&gt;lwidmer&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the fact that I used actual logic on the potential client helped: Why would I ever accept liability for actions taken by others well after my copy has been handed in? I have no power to ensure their &quot;corrections&quot; are correct, and this is clearly a case of your legal team trying to shift staffers&#039; liability onto others. 

I also made it clear I wouldn&#039;t sign anything that made me liable for the decisions of others—especially people I&#039;ve never met.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17720">lwidmer</a>.</p>
<p>I think the fact that I used actual logic on the potential client helped: Why would I ever accept liability for actions taken by others well after my copy has been handed in? I have no power to ensure their &#8220;corrections&#8221; are correct, and this is clearly a case of your legal team trying to shift staffers&#8217; liability onto others. </p>
<p>I also made it clear I wouldn&#8217;t sign anything that made me liable for the decisions of others—especially people I&#8217;ve never met.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17722&quot;&gt;Devon Ellington&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, no boilerplate. That smacks of employer-employee relationship, not an exchange of professional services.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17722">Devon Ellington</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, no boilerplate. That smacks of employer-employee relationship, not an exchange of professional services.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17721&quot;&gt;Devon Ellington&lt;/a&gt;.

See, I&#039;ve never understood that type of thinking, Devon. It&#039;s a mistrust, or maybe the need to control that I believe makes some prospective clients demand the onsite work. It makes no sense, either. I can get more done in four hours than I ever did in an office for eight hours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17721">Devon Ellington</a>.</p>
<p>See, I&#8217;ve never understood that type of thinking, Devon. It&#8217;s a mistrust, or maybe the need to control that I believe makes some prospective clients demand the onsite work. It makes no sense, either. I can get more done in four hours than I ever did in an office for eight hours.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17719&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve noticed, with some of the small book publishers, that when my agent and/or lawyer and I go through for negotiations, they say &quot;we don&#039;t negotiate&quot; and expect me to sign a boilerplate. As far as I&#039;m concerned, the initial contract is where we START negotiations. I don&#039;t sign boilerplates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17719">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed, with some of the small book publishers, that when my agent and/or lawyer and I go through for negotiations, they say &#8220;we don&#8217;t negotiate&#8221; and expect me to sign a boilerplate. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the initial contract is where we START negotiations. I don&#8217;t sign boilerplates.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where I live now, there are a lot of prospective clients who don&#039;t believe you&#039;re doing the work unless you&#039;re in the room where they can see you. I don&#039;t like to work that way. I don&#039;t mind spending some time on-site, in their office, on particular projects. But I&#039;m more productive on my own time, and I don&#039;t charge unless I&#039;m working. So having me in a loud, open space that curtails my productivity ends up costing everyone. So now I say no.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live now, there are a lot of prospective clients who don&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re doing the work unless you&#8217;re in the room where they can see you. I don&#8217;t like to work that way. I don&#8217;t mind spending some time on-site, in their office, on particular projects. But I&#8217;m more productive on my own time, and I don&#8217;t charge unless I&#8217;m working. So having me in a loud, open space that curtails my productivity ends up costing everyone. So now I say no.</p>
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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17719&quot;&gt;Paula Hendrickson&lt;/a&gt;.

The company that sent it to me was a big one -- and knew better. They didn&#039;t move forward because I asked for the liability section to be revised. You&#039;re lucky if your client saw the problem and corrected it. These guys didn&#039;t think there was a problem. They didn&#039;t want the liability. I figured it&#039;s best they keep the work internal if that&#039;s the case. ;)

In a few cases, I have had clients who send standard contracts that don&#039;t fit, and they&#039;re quite happy to change things. The one time I did get burned on a contract was with  &#039;Teen Magazine decades ago (literally). They had a contract that stated one word -- &quot;minimum&quot; -- that ended up costing me $1500. They paid me for that &quot;minimum&quot; 500 words and printed the whole thing. And they never answered my letter pointing out that they&#039;d used the entire thing without compensating me. Why? Because how it was worded (and it&#039;s been years, so I&#039;m fuzzy on what it had said) left them off the hook and left me high and dry.

These days, with the internet, they&#039;d never get away with that. If they&#039;re even in business anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2018/07/confusing-client-requests-how-writers-can-handle-them.html#comment-17719">Paula Hendrickson</a>.</p>
<p>The company that sent it to me was a big one &#8212; and knew better. They didn&#8217;t move forward because I asked for the liability section to be revised. You&#8217;re lucky if your client saw the problem and corrected it. These guys didn&#8217;t think there was a problem. They didn&#8217;t want the liability. I figured it&#8217;s best they keep the work internal if that&#8217;s the case. 😉</p>
<p>In a few cases, I have had clients who send standard contracts that don&#8217;t fit, and they&#8217;re quite happy to change things. The one time I did get burned on a contract was with  &#8216;Teen Magazine decades ago (literally). They had a contract that stated one word &#8212; &#8220;minimum&#8221; &#8212; that ended up costing me $1500. They paid me for that &#8220;minimum&#8221; 500 words and printed the whole thing. And they never answered my letter pointing out that they&#8217;d used the entire thing without compensating me. Why? Because how it was worded (and it&#8217;s been years, so I&#8217;m fuzzy on what it had said) left them off the hook and left me high and dry.</p>
<p>These days, with the internet, they&#8217;d never get away with that. If they&#8217;re even in business anymore.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A couple years ago a potential client sent me a contract including wording that would have made me liable for changes their editors made to my copy. Instead of signing the contract, I highlighted the passage and added a note explaining that it would be impossible to accept liability for things that happen AFTER I&#039;ve completed my work. 

The editor who&#039;d sent it admitted she hadn&#039;t even read the standard contract supplied &quot;by Legal.&quot; She agreed it was ridiculous and had &quot;Legal&quot; draw up a new contract for me. It didn&#039;t have that clause and I signed.

I also had potential client send a one-size-fits-all contract that was really geared more to maintenance and repair contractors than content providers. I crossed out all points that didn&#039;t apply to writing and editorial issues and sent it back unsigned. This place also sent me a more appropriate contract.

My guess? Some legal departments simple find it easier to create one or two all-encompassing contracts filled with legalese that are too difficult for most people to decipher (but not writers!) than to write separate contracts for different types of projects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple years ago a potential client sent me a contract including wording that would have made me liable for changes their editors made to my copy. Instead of signing the contract, I highlighted the passage and added a note explaining that it would be impossible to accept liability for things that happen AFTER I&#8217;ve completed my work. </p>
<p>The editor who&#8217;d sent it admitted she hadn&#8217;t even read the standard contract supplied &#8220;by Legal.&#8221; She agreed it was ridiculous and had &#8220;Legal&#8221; draw up a new contract for me. It didn&#8217;t have that clause and I signed.</p>
<p>I also had potential client send a one-size-fits-all contract that was really geared more to maintenance and repair contractors than content providers. I crossed out all points that didn&#8217;t apply to writing and editorial issues and sent it back unsigned. This place also sent me a more appropriate contract.</p>
<p>My guess? Some legal departments simple find it easier to create one or two all-encompassing contracts filled with legalese that are too difficult for most people to decipher (but not writers!) than to write separate contracts for different types of projects.</p>
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