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		By: lwidmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lwidmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wordsonpageblog.com/2016/05/writers-worth-why-you-need-freelance.html#comment-15116&quot;&gt;Susan Feerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad you liked it, Susan! It&#039;s always good to examine things closely, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wordsonpageblog.com/2016/05/writers-worth-why-you-need-freelance.html#comment-15116">Susan Feerman</a>.</p>
<p>Glad you liked it, Susan! It&#8217;s always good to examine things closely, I think.</p>
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		By: Susan Feerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Feerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks a good post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a good post!</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 19:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You get what you pay for.  Since he wasn&#039;t paying for quality content, of course he wasn&#039;t getting it.  I&#039;m still a little skeptical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, I am the Anti-Niche -- also known, thanks to the article I wrote for WOW- WOMEN ON WRITING -- as a &#034;Renaissance Writer&#034;.  I can do many things, and it serves me well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get what you pay for.  Since he wasn&#39;t paying for quality content, of course he wasn&#39;t getting it.  I&#39;m still a little skeptical.</p>
<p>Of course, I am the Anti-Niche &#8212; also known, thanks to the article I wrote for WOW- WOMEN ON WRITING &#8212; as a &quot;Renaissance Writer&quot;.  I can do many things, and it serves me well.</p>
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		By: Jennifer Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2016 04:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m slightly hesitant to comment here, but you know. That rarely stops me. ;) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason I&#039;m hesitant is because (full disclosure), Dave is a client. I was brought in to consult on and help improve the survey Lori mentioned. But I hope those who know me also know I don&#039;t get behind anything -- even a paying client -- if I don&#039;t believe in what they&#039;re trying to do. (Same gal who walked away from a long-time $30k+ per year client simply because their new SEO policies crossed my ethical line -- I don&#039;t take this kind of thing lightly.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not going to tell you that CopyPress is awesome and you should sign up. I don&#039;t personally use them, so I&#039;m not in a position to do that. But what I &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; say is that Dave is &#034;good people.&#034; As others have noted, it&#039;s refreshing when companies try to change for the better. As a PR pro, I have quite a lot of respect for that, as well as companies who take criticism and turn it around to improve things (as in the case with their survey). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One important thing Dave pointed out in our previous discussions was that this survey isn&#039;t just about collecting data on freelancers. It&#039;s about educating marketers. It&#039;s important for marketers to see what real freelance pros expect and charge (compared to feedback they get only from big marketplaces featuring a large number of low quality writers, which can skew data.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;re not always the easiest group to reach, because we don&#039;t tend to congregate in large groups in marketplaces and content mills. So please, take some time to take the survey mentioned in the post. Make sure we&#039;re better represented this time around. Let marketers who hire freelance writers know that, no, $.05 per word is not a &#034;standard&#034; freelance writing rate for example. Even if you don&#039;t work through these marketplaces, you don&#039;t know where your own prospects are getting their data before considering your rates. Help make sure that data is more accurate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I, for one, appreciate that CopyPress saw the shortcomings of their past surveys and is trying to improve things this time. The biggest issue is reach. So spread the word. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m slightly hesitant to comment here, but you know. That rarely stops me. 😉 </p>
<p>The reason I&#39;m hesitant is because (full disclosure), Dave is a client. I was brought in to consult on and help improve the survey Lori mentioned. But I hope those who know me also know I don&#39;t get behind anything &#8212; even a paying client &#8212; if I don&#39;t believe in what they&#39;re trying to do. (Same gal who walked away from a long-time $30k+ per year client simply because their new SEO policies crossed my ethical line &#8212; I don&#39;t take this kind of thing lightly.)</p>
<p>I&#39;m not going to tell you that CopyPress is awesome and you should sign up. I don&#39;t personally use them, so I&#39;m not in a position to do that. But what I <em>will</em> say is that Dave is &quot;good people.&quot; As others have noted, it&#39;s refreshing when companies try to change for the better. As a PR pro, I have quite a lot of respect for that, as well as companies who take criticism and turn it around to improve things (as in the case with their survey). </p>
<p>One important thing Dave pointed out in our previous discussions was that this survey isn&#39;t just about collecting data on freelancers. It&#39;s about educating marketers. It&#39;s important for marketers to see what real freelance pros expect and charge (compared to feedback they get only from big marketplaces featuring a large number of low quality writers, which can skew data.) </p>
<p>We&#39;re not always the easiest group to reach, because we don&#39;t tend to congregate in large groups in marketplaces and content mills. So please, take some time to take the survey mentioned in the post. Make sure we&#39;re better represented this time around. Let marketers who hire freelance writers know that, no, $.05 per word is not a &quot;standard&quot; freelance writing rate for example. Even if you don&#39;t work through these marketplaces, you don&#39;t know where your own prospects are getting their data before considering your rates. Help make sure that data is more accurate. </p>
<p>I, for one, appreciate that CopyPress saw the shortcomings of their past surveys and is trying to improve things this time. The biggest issue is reach. So spread the word. </p>
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		By: Ashley Festa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley Festa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I noticed that too, Lori, that they weren&#039;t making money, which is why they took another look at the business model. At least they changed, I suppose. And at least he recognizes that great writers deserve great pay. That&#039;s what worth is all about!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that too, Lori, that they weren&#39;t making money, which is why they took another look at the business model. At least they changed, I suppose. And at least he recognizes that great writers deserve great pay. That&#39;s what worth is all about!</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree, Laura. Not all care enough to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And for what it&#039;s worth, Dave admitted that part of the reason they changed their business model was because they couldn&#039;t turn a profit. The change wasn&#039;t entirely altruistic, but I&#039;m still glad it happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Laura. Not all care enough to do so.</p>
<p>And for what it&#39;s worth, Dave admitted that part of the reason they changed their business model was because they couldn&#39;t turn a profit. The change wasn&#39;t entirely altruistic, but I&#39;m still glad it happened.</p>
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		By: Laura Spencer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Spencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting points here Lori. It&#039;s refreshing to see this attitude. If only all content mills would make this change...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points here Lori. It&#39;s refreshing to see this attitude. If only all content mills would make this change&#8230;</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 16:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do like how Dave even said his company shouldn&#039;t be a writer&#039;s main source of clients, but more as a backup system for those inevitable slumps most freelancers face. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Very refreshing, especially considering most content sites seem intent on keeping their freelancers beholden to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like how Dave even said his company shouldn&#39;t be a writer&#39;s main source of clients, but more as a backup system for those inevitable slumps most freelancers face. </p>
<p>Very refreshing, especially considering most content sites seem intent on keeping their freelancers beholden to them.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That struck me too, Paula. We think we&#039;ve scored a victory when in fact things just eroded even further.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I suppose it&#039;s tough to give a thumbs-up endorsement to a former content mill. It&#039;s like asking us to believe that reform has happened -- in this case, it appears to have, but writers have pretty long memories, I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That struck me too, Paula. We think we&#39;ve scored a victory when in fact things just eroded even further.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#39;s tough to give a thumbs-up endorsement to a former content mill. It&#39;s like asking us to believe that reform has happened &#8212; in this case, it appears to have, but writers have pretty long memories, I guess.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 14:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m the eternal optimist, so of course I believe things can change for the better. Even a former content mill. (As for HuffPo? Well, maybe not.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reading Dave&#039;s story was enlightening, and his line about the HuffPos of the world: &#034;Demand Media was bad, but at least they were paying.&#034; Was so true it&#039;s chilling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m the eternal optimist, so of course I believe things can change for the better. Even a former content mill. (As for HuffPo? Well, maybe not.)</p>
<p>Reading Dave&#39;s story was enlightening, and his line about the HuffPos of the world: &quot;Demand Media was bad, but at least they were paying.&quot; Was so true it&#39;s chilling.</p>
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