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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Devon. Your comment somehow landed in the Spam folder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to agree with you on local work. For some reason, one freebie for a local group does tend to turn into expectations that they&#039;ll never need to pay. Good for you for nipping that in the bud early.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agreed with the editing clients, too. I take on individuals, but the money does have to be up front first, and I won&#039;t block off time. I work it into the schedule. Like you, I&#039;ve been caught in that same situation where the author just doesn&#039;t have time to meet deadlines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Devon. Your comment somehow landed in the Spam folder.</p>
<p>I have to agree with you on local work. For some reason, one freebie for a local group does tend to turn into expectations that they&#39;ll never need to pay. Good for you for nipping that in the bud early.</p>
<p>Agreed with the editing clients, too. I take on individuals, but the money does have to be up front first, and I won&#39;t block off time. I work it into the schedule. Like you, I&#39;ve been caught in that same situation where the author just doesn&#39;t have time to meet deadlines.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dana thanks. I&#039;d like to hear more about that free job you do -- perks? I&#039;m all for that!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not so sure on the trial piece. I&#039;ve been burned in the past with those (&#034;sample&#034; chapters, articles, blog posts, lists, etc.), so now I send them my existing samples. That should be enough. If not, it&#039;s not for me.&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana thanks. I&#39;d like to hear more about that free job you do &#8212; perks? I&#39;m all for that!</p>
<p>I&#39;m not so sure on the trial piece. I&#39;ve been burned in the past with those (&quot;sample&quot; chapters, articles, blog posts, lists, etc.), so now I send them my existing samples. That should be enough. If not, it&#39;s not for me.</p>
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		By: Dana Ford		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Ford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have one &#034;free&#034; gig. It&#039;s all about the perks that come with the job though, not the money, so in that sense it&#039;s not really free, just doesn&#039;t pay in cash. It&#039;s my opinion the only totally free job any of us should be giving out would only be for one trial piece for the potential customer to see first-hand what the writer can offer them. Other than that scenario, the writer is being exploited. Lori, I love how you pointed out about not being able to build a professional foundation on shaky, free jobs. Nailed it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one &quot;free&quot; gig. It&#39;s all about the perks that come with the job though, not the money, so in that sense it&#39;s not really free, just doesn&#39;t pay in cash. It&#39;s my opinion the only totally free job any of us should be giving out would only be for one trial piece for the potential customer to see first-hand what the writer can offer them. Other than that scenario, the writer is being exploited. Lori, I love how you pointed out about not being able to build a professional foundation on shaky, free jobs. Nailed it.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do some free writing for a small, local non-profit about whose mission I am passionate.  Clips of that writing has landed me paid gigs with other organizations, so it (almost) evens out.  I&#039;m doing some volunteer writing on a campaign for someone I believe in, and we&#039;ll see where that goes.  I&#039;ve set some very strong boundaries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I first moved to the Cape, I did a couple of articles for a local publication for free to get my name out and about in the area. That did NOT lead to paying gigs -- one of the problems in this area is that people don&#039;t want to pay writers.  At this point, if you don&#039;t pay me, I don&#039;t work for you.  Not around here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll do a freebie guest post if it&#039;s someone I know, like, and respect.  I&#039;ll do a freebie guest post if it&#039;s focused on a new release of one of my books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve restructured my freelance business lately to only accept manuscript editing from publishing houses rather than individual authors, because:  1) most authors don&#039;t want to pay a fair rate for line editing; 2) most of the material takes MUCH more work than what I can give them for their budget; 3) individual authors are notorious for booking time and then not delivering the manuscript because they &#034;didn&#039;t have time&#034; to finish it, leaving me with lost income.  Even a deposit on booking didn&#039;t solve that.  So I don&#039;t do it anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m focusing on marketing writing and script writing, both of which pay better and tend to have a more reliable client base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do some free writing for a small, local non-profit about whose mission I am passionate.  Clips of that writing has landed me paid gigs with other organizations, so it (almost) evens out.  I&#39;m doing some volunteer writing on a campaign for someone I believe in, and we&#39;ll see where that goes.  I&#39;ve set some very strong boundaries.</p>
<p>When I first moved to the Cape, I did a couple of articles for a local publication for free to get my name out and about in the area. That did NOT lead to paying gigs &#8212; one of the problems in this area is that people don&#39;t want to pay writers.  At this point, if you don&#39;t pay me, I don&#39;t work for you.  Not around here.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll do a freebie guest post if it&#39;s someone I know, like, and respect.  I&#39;ll do a freebie guest post if it&#39;s focused on a new release of one of my books.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve restructured my freelance business lately to only accept manuscript editing from publishing houses rather than individual authors, because:  1) most authors don&#39;t want to pay a fair rate for line editing; 2) most of the material takes MUCH more work than what I can give them for their budget; 3) individual authors are notorious for booking time and then not delivering the manuscript because they &quot;didn&#39;t have time&quot; to finish it, leaving me with lost income.  Even a deposit on booking didn&#39;t solve that.  So I don&#39;t do it anymore. </p>
<p>I&#39;m focusing on marketing writing and script writing, both of which pay better and tend to have a more reliable client base.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eileen, I do know what you&#039;re talking about! Not surprised you didn&#039;t hear from them again. I think they weren&#039;t used to working with freelancers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like your point about bartering -- I&#039;ve done that, too. I exchanged web content for web design once. It was a perfect trade, too. And your point about providing free work as a test from your side is a good one. Agreed that limiting that is a good idea, and I would add offering it only to those clients who show they&#039;re serious (this one agreed to your rate).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re right, Paula. Chances are most of the clips won&#039;t be useful. That&#039;s why I think it&#039;s important to put limits around how much freebies you&#039;ll give.&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen, I do know what you&#39;re talking about! Not surprised you didn&#39;t hear from them again. I think they weren&#39;t used to working with freelancers.</p>
<p>I like your point about bartering &#8212; I&#39;ve done that, too. I exchanged web content for web design once. It was a perfect trade, too. And your point about providing free work as a test from your side is a good one. Agreed that limiting that is a good idea, and I would add offering it only to those clients who show they&#39;re serious (this one agreed to your rate).</p>
<p>You&#39;re right, Paula. Chances are most of the clips won&#39;t be useful. That&#39;s why I think it&#39;s important to put limits around how much freebies you&#39;ll give.</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever written for free, unless you count free resumes I&#039;ve done for close friends and family - most of whom referred me to their friends who paid me to write their resumes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in speaking with beginning freelancers, I usually tell them if they think it&#039;s a smart move, it&#039;s okay to write one or two pieces for no (or very low) pay, but only if they&#039;re doing in on their own terms. They need to be clear they&#039;re just gaining clips and moving on to paying markets. In essence, they&#039;re using the &#034;client&#034; as much as the client is using them. Perhaps more. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chances are most clips gained from non-paying markets aren&#039;t going to be good enough to impress paying clients anyway. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve ever written for free, unless you count free resumes I&#39;ve done for close friends and family &#8211; most of whom referred me to their friends who paid me to write their resumes.</p>
<p>But in speaking with beginning freelancers, I usually tell them if they think it&#39;s a smart move, it&#39;s okay to write one or two pieces for no (or very low) pay, but only if they&#39;re doing in on their own terms. They need to be clear they&#39;re just gaining clips and moving on to paying markets. In essence, they&#39;re using the &quot;client&quot; as much as the client is using them. Perhaps more. </p>
<p>Chances are most clips gained from non-paying markets aren&#39;t going to be good enough to impress paying clients anyway. </p>
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		By: Eileen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My very first work was bartered, not free: a brochure for a local children&#039;s consignment store in exchange for $25 in store credit. Timid little me couldn&#039;t bring myself to ask for more! But the store owner was thrilled, and I had a sample and gained the confidence that I could do this. It was a win-win. Until recently, in my 15 year career I&#039;d NEVER done spec work. I turned down a number of &#034;opportunities&#034; because they required either a free sample or the entire project on spec. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then last month I did a free video script for the potential of ongoing work. I believed him to be on the up and up even though he seemed not to have worked with writers before. (You&#039;ll know who I&#039;m talking about, Lori.) Plus, it was an opportunity for me to see if I could handle a new subject matter for me. The prospect loved the sample, agreed to my price, and said we&#039;d start 1 March. Then they wanted me to invoice them at the end of every months&#039; worth of work, with payment terms of 45 days. I said no, and gave them my terms: 50% deposit on the first months&#039; work, invoice every 2 weeks. I never heard from them again. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here&#039;s the thing: I don&#039;t regret the free sample. (For one thing, I told them they don&#039;t have permission to use it unless they pay for it.) It showed me I can handle a subject matter that&#039;s totally new to me. And it also showed me that a long-term relationship with this client would be a big mistake. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll never say never, because there is a time for strategic free samples or spec work. But it&#039;s not often, that&#039;s for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My very first work was bartered, not free: a brochure for a local children&#39;s consignment store in exchange for $25 in store credit. Timid little me couldn&#39;t bring myself to ask for more! But the store owner was thrilled, and I had a sample and gained the confidence that I could do this. It was a win-win. Until recently, in my 15 year career I&#39;d NEVER done spec work. I turned down a number of &quot;opportunities&quot; because they required either a free sample or the entire project on spec. </p>
<p>Then last month I did a free video script for the potential of ongoing work. I believed him to be on the up and up even though he seemed not to have worked with writers before. (You&#39;ll know who I&#39;m talking about, Lori.) Plus, it was an opportunity for me to see if I could handle a new subject matter for me. The prospect loved the sample, agreed to my price, and said we&#39;d start 1 March. Then they wanted me to invoice them at the end of every months&#39; worth of work, with payment terms of 45 days. I said no, and gave them my terms: 50% deposit on the first months&#39; work, invoice every 2 weeks. I never heard from them again. </p>
<p>And here&#39;s the thing: I don&#39;t regret the free sample. (For one thing, I told them they don&#39;t have permission to use it unless they pay for it.) It showed me I can handle a subject matter that&#39;s totally new to me. And it also showed me that a long-term relationship with this client would be a big mistake. </p>
<p>I&#39;ll never say never, because there is a time for strategic free samples or spec work. But it&#39;s not often, that&#39;s for sure.</p>
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