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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So many courses seem to promise the moon, and I think they are bought by folks who are looking for an easier way... which doesn&#039;t exist imo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many courses seem to promise the moon, and I think they are bought by folks who are looking for an easier way&#8230; which doesn&#39;t exist imo.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Melanie, that&#039;s sad. I&#039;m like you -- I encourage people to challenge themselves in their careers, and I think everyone has something to teach, but there has to be a high level of quality attached to the attempt. Misspellings would turn me off, also.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think your presenter would be smart to show how she&#039;s done all she&#039;s proposing to teach. A solid track record -- even a short one -- would negate any doubts. But if there isn&#039;t one, then it&#039;s overpriced lip service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emily, from what I&#039;ve seen, yes. People are doing this. It&#039;s becoming a minefield of inexperienced people who are somehow pulling together the content and selling it as their own information (because I doubt anyone with so little experience could have a wealth of knowledge in a new career). Hey, I&#039;ve been doing this full time for 12+ years and I&#039;m no less hesitant than you when it comes to teaching! When I present something, it has to be something I&#039;ve actually done, and my approach has to be unique. Otherwise, why bother?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jenn, you&#039;ve touched on exactly what bugs me about this whole &#034;instant expert&#034; scenario. These people want instant growth, and they&#039;re not afraid to stretch facts or lift content to do it. There&#039;s no thought to the ethical aspects of it, and there&#039;s certainly no thought to what value they&#039;re giving for the money people are paying. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the same people who shout the loudest and stretch their credentials the thinnest. No thanks. Give me someone with a solid background and a focus that isn&#039;t on how much money they can earn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie, that&#39;s sad. I&#39;m like you &#8212; I encourage people to challenge themselves in their careers, and I think everyone has something to teach, but there has to be a high level of quality attached to the attempt. Misspellings would turn me off, also.</p>
<p>I think your presenter would be smart to show how she&#39;s done all she&#39;s proposing to teach. A solid track record &#8212; even a short one &#8212; would negate any doubts. But if there isn&#39;t one, then it&#39;s overpriced lip service.</p>
<p>Emily, from what I&#39;ve seen, yes. People are doing this. It&#39;s becoming a minefield of inexperienced people who are somehow pulling together the content and selling it as their own information (because I doubt anyone with so little experience could have a wealth of knowledge in a new career). Hey, I&#39;ve been doing this full time for 12+ years and I&#39;m no less hesitant than you when it comes to teaching! When I present something, it has to be something I&#39;ve actually done, and my approach has to be unique. Otherwise, why bother?</p>
<p>Jenn, you&#39;ve touched on exactly what bugs me about this whole &quot;instant expert&quot; scenario. These people want instant growth, and they&#39;re not afraid to stretch facts or lift content to do it. There&#39;s no thought to the ethical aspects of it, and there&#39;s certainly no thought to what value they&#39;re giving for the money people are paying. </p>
<p>These are the same people who shout the loudest and stretch their credentials the thinnest. No thanks. Give me someone with a solid background and a focus that isn&#39;t on how much money they can earn.</p>
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		By: Emily Fowler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Fowler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definitely Jenn - it&#039;s scary that it&#039;s happening. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m going to start checking people out when I see them touting their &#039;expert&#039; services, just to see how long they&#039;ve actually been &#039;experts&#039; for. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely Jenn &#8211; it&#39;s scary that it&#39;s happening. </p>
<p>I&#39;m going to start checking people out when I see them touting their &#39;expert&#39; services, just to see how long they&#39;ve actually been &#39;experts&#39; for. </p>
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		By: Jennifer Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sad but true Emily. There are new writers out there currently offering classes and coaching that they have no business offering. I wouldn&#039;t care if it didn&#039;t put every single one of their students at risk. But the fact that it does, and they think that&#039;s ok, is pretty disgusting to me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the U.S. (based on SBA stats), around 30% of small businesses fail within their first two years. If you haven&#039;t made it at least that long, you sure as hell don&#039;t have a successful history under your belt to be teaching others from. By the time we get to the 5-year mark, around half of small businesses have shut down. Only around 30% make it to the 10 year mark. If you want to build a sustainable business, those are the people qualified to help you. When you&#039;ve hit that 5-year mark you probably have some worthwhile stories to share. So start a blog. Write an e-book. But that&#039;s still a far cry from real &#034;expert&#034; status in my book -- and anything less, you shouldn&#039;t be offering one-on-one coaching as if you know what&#039;s going to make someone else&#039;s business succeed when you haven&#039;t proven the staying power of your own yet. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s sad but true Emily. There are new writers out there currently offering classes and coaching that they have no business offering. I wouldn&#39;t care if it didn&#39;t put every single one of their students at risk. But the fact that it does, and they think that&#39;s ok, is pretty disgusting to me. </p>
<p>In the U.S. (based on SBA stats), around 30% of small businesses fail within their first two years. If you haven&#39;t made it at least that long, you sure as hell don&#39;t have a successful history under your belt to be teaching others from. By the time we get to the 5-year mark, around half of small businesses have shut down. Only around 30% make it to the 10 year mark. If you want to build a sustainable business, those are the people qualified to help you. When you&#39;ve hit that 5-year mark you probably have some worthwhile stories to share. So start a blog. Write an e-book. But that&#39;s still a far cry from real &quot;expert&quot; status in my book &#8212; and anything less, you shouldn&#39;t be offering one-on-one coaching as if you know what&#39;s going to make someone else&#39;s business succeed when you haven&#39;t proven the staying power of your own yet. </p>
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		By: Emily Fowler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Fowler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2015 08:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;If they&#039;ve been in business a year or less, why are you trusting them with your money?&#034; Wowser, are people really doing this? I&#039;ve been getting paid to write for over three years, but there&#039;s absolutely no way I&#039;d consider &#039;teaching&#039; - I still feel far too new in the game for that. I&#039;m happy to share my experiences with other writers, saying &#039;this is how X worked for me, or how I handled Y, but see what other writers think, don&#039;t just rely on my experience!&#039;, but for me that&#039;s all part and parcel of helping fellow writers, I still have plenty of questions so happy to share my experiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a learning junkie, though like Paula haven&#039;t taken any courses that are specifically about making money writing (though I have bought plenty of books ad eBooks!). What I study tends to be roughly linked to what I do though - I finished my degree this year (literature with creative writing), am studying feline behaviour and psychology (I write about cats) and about to start Spanish classes at a local college. OK, that one&#039;s just because my brother has recently moved to Spain and his Spanish is better than mine already ;o)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If they&#39;ve been in business a year or less, why are you trusting them with your money?&quot; Wowser, are people really doing this? I&#39;ve been getting paid to write for over three years, but there&#39;s absolutely no way I&#39;d consider &#39;teaching&#39; &#8211; I still feel far too new in the game for that. I&#39;m happy to share my experiences with other writers, saying &#39;this is how X worked for me, or how I handled Y, but see what other writers think, don&#39;t just rely on my experience!&#39;, but for me that&#39;s all part and parcel of helping fellow writers, I still have plenty of questions so happy to share my experiences.</p>
<p>I&#39;m a learning junkie, though like Paula haven&#39;t taken any courses that are specifically about making money writing (though I have bought plenty of books ad eBooks!). What I study tends to be roughly linked to what I do though &#8211; I finished my degree this year (literature with creative writing), am studying feline behaviour and psychology (I write about cats) and about to start Spanish classes at a local college. OK, that one&#39;s just because my brother has recently moved to Spain and his Spanish is better than mine already ;o)</p>
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		By: Melanie Kissell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Kissell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[THIS!: &#034; ... for someone teaching how to write, she could have used an editor.&#034; Oy, Lori. I hear THAT! :(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recently connected with a lovely young woman online who&#039;s been writing for about a year. So, of course, she&#039;s now started teaching &#034;how to&#034; get paid to write online. I guess she figures she&#039;s seasoned after twelve whole months of writing (yes, I&#039;m being cynical.) I&#039;m finding grammatical errors in almost every one of her emails and blog posts and I&#039;m betting others are finding them, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I applaud her courage, passion, motivation, and spunk, she needs to go back to the drawing board and learn to proofread her work before she expects people to pay her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS!: &quot; &#8230; for someone teaching how to write, she could have used an editor.&quot; Oy, Lori. I hear THAT! 🙁</p>
<p>I recently connected with a lovely young woman online who&#39;s been writing for about a year. So, of course, she&#39;s now started teaching &quot;how to&quot; get paid to write online. I guess she figures she&#39;s seasoned after twelve whole months of writing (yes, I&#39;m being cynical.) I&#39;m finding grammatical errors in almost every one of her emails and blog posts and I&#39;m betting others are finding them, too.</p>
<p>Although I applaud her courage, passion, motivation, and spunk, she needs to go back to the drawing board and learn to proofread her work before she expects people to pay her.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, it&#039;s probably smart, Paula. And your last two sentences are fine. We get it. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re right -- answers are often easy to find. The courses I&#039;ve paid for are ones that offer a different perspective on methods or approach. The how-to info is plentiful, for sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve paid for just a handful of courses, one this year (and it was great). It takes a lot to make me part with my money. I guess it helps that I&#039;m cheap!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#39;s probably smart, Paula. And your last two sentences are fine. We get it. 🙂</p>
<p>You&#39;re right &#8212; answers are often easy to find. The courses I&#39;ve paid for are ones that offer a different perspective on methods or approach. The how-to info is plentiful, for sure.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve paid for just a handful of courses, one this year (and it was great). It takes a lot to make me part with my money. I guess it helps that I&#39;m cheap!</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Could my last two sentences be any more convoluted?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Could my last two sentences be any more convoluted?)</p>
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		By: Paula Hendrickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it bad that I&#039;ve never paid for a course or seminar? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve bought plenty of books, and have attended several free seminars (some were actually good, others....well, I knew as much if not more than the &#034;experts,&#034; so you could say I got what I didn&#039;t pay for.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like Cathy said, writers like to research. Answers are easy to find. What I think a lot of people - newbies, especially - are looking for is sage advice to help put all of that information in context.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve been doing this forever and still wouldn&#039;t have the audacity to position myself as the all-knowing expert I&#039;ve seen others with a fraction of my experience do. They might even have some solid advice, but that doesn&#039;t make it worth paying for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it bad that I&#39;ve never paid for a course or seminar? </p>
<p>I&#39;ve bought plenty of books, and have attended several free seminars (some were actually good, others&#8230;.well, I knew as much if not more than the &quot;experts,&quot; so you could say I got what I didn&#39;t pay for.)</p>
<p>Like Cathy said, writers like to research. Answers are easy to find. What I think a lot of people &#8211; newbies, especially &#8211; are looking for is sage advice to help put all of that information in context.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve been doing this forever and still wouldn&#39;t have the audacity to position myself as the all-knowing expert I&#39;ve seen others with a fraction of my experience do. They might even have some solid advice, but that doesn&#39;t make it worth paying for.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sharon, it&#039;s maddening, isn&#039;t it? I don&#039;t know about you, but it leaves me with a bad taste that all these &#034;experts&#034; are targeting their own kind. It&#039;s like animals that eat their young. Why not put that energy into creating something that faces a corporate client or a magazine?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy, your advice is golden. Don&#039;t buy in to every course. I love that you&#039;re strategic with your money -- makes for smarter decisions. :) And showing up is exactly half the battle! I love this: &#034;However, if your reason is because you know it&#039;s something you should do, rather than want to do, you probably just threw your money away.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amen, sister.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, it&#39;s maddening, isn&#39;t it? I don&#39;t know about you, but it leaves me with a bad taste that all these &quot;experts&quot; are targeting their own kind. It&#39;s like animals that eat their young. Why not put that energy into creating something that faces a corporate client or a magazine?</p>
<p>Cathy, your advice is golden. Don&#39;t buy in to every course. I love that you&#39;re strategic with your money &#8212; makes for smarter decisions. 🙂 And showing up is exactly half the battle! I love this: &quot;However, if your reason is because you know it&#39;s something you should do, rather than want to do, you probably just threw your money away.&quot;</p>
<p>Amen, sister.</p>
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