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		By: 10 Ways To Land Your First Freelance Writing Job - Online Studies		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10 Ways To Land Your First Freelance Writing Job - Online Studies]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] job, and without getting pulled into the long history of exploitation of freelance marketplaces, content mills, and revenue share [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] job, and without getting pulled into the long history of exploitation of freelance marketplaces, content mills, and revenue share [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori, that could explain it. I think mine dealt more with recruitment and marketing for small businesses. If yours were more technical, I can easily see them taking longer. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ashley, I think that&#039;s a big part of it. People don&#039;t know what to do to move on to something better, and sometimes the ease of the content mill work discourages them from doing something they perceive to be more difficult (which isn&#039;t always the case). The information is out there. It&#039;s just a matter of those writers reaching the point where they&#039;re ready to put it to use and make changes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alicia, Thanks! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, that could explain it. I think mine dealt more with recruitment and marketing for small businesses. If yours were more technical, I can easily see them taking longer. </p>
<p>Ashley, I think that&#39;s a big part of it. People don&#39;t know what to do to move on to something better, and sometimes the ease of the content mill work discourages them from doing something they perceive to be more difficult (which isn&#39;t always the case). The information is out there. It&#39;s just a matter of those writers reaching the point where they&#39;re ready to put it to use and make changes.</p>
<p>Alicia, Thanks! </p>
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		By: Alicia Rades		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alicia Rades]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 19:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I listened to the whole thing. Great discussion! Thank you both for sharing. I&#039;m looking forward to reading more on writer&#039;s worth this month, Lori! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the whole thing. Great discussion! Thank you both for sharing. I&#39;m looking forward to reading more on writer&#39;s worth this month, Lori! 🙂</p>
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		By: Ashley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did work briefly for a content mill on the editing side. I didn&#039;t need writing clips (I had nice, legitimate ones) and I could do editing faster, so it turned into a better hourly rate than writing for practically nothing. It was so mind-numbing that I didn&#039;t do it long. My problem was that I just didn&#039;t know how to pursue bigger clients. When I finally figured out that a little extra work on the front end resulted in a much bigger pay-off in the long run, I left content mills and never looked back. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did work briefly for a content mill on the editing side. I didn&#39;t need writing clips (I had nice, legitimate ones) and I could do editing faster, so it turned into a better hourly rate than writing for practically nothing. It was so mind-numbing that I didn&#39;t do it long. My problem was that I just didn&#39;t know how to pursue bigger clients. When I finally figured out that a little extra work on the front end resulted in a much bigger pay-off in the long run, I left content mills and never looked back. </p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 16:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jenn, I think I was. Plus mine was about insurance -- specifically, trucking insurance. There was something else I did for them, but I can&#039;t remember anymore. It wasn&#039;t a bad gig, but it started to become too time-consuming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amen, Paula. Amen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn, I think I was. Plus mine was about insurance &#8212; specifically, trucking insurance. There was something else I did for them, but I can&#39;t remember anymore. It wasn&#39;t a bad gig, but it started to become too time-consuming.</p>
<p>Amen, Paula. Amen.</p>
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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks ladies!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lori -- Business.com was $200 per post. They worked out well in my case because the articles assigned to me ended up being very quick -- less than an hour per post. And they were all approved by my editor as-delivered (from what you&#039;ve told me before, I suspect you were working with a different editor). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A while back I noticed that they moved the content to their main site, but they stripped our bylines. Not happy about that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula -- That&#039;s a great example of how you can use lower paying assignments to land something better. Content mills don&#039;t usually work out that way. And even when they do, the progress tends to be slower. One piece with a widely respected publication or organization can do much more for a new writer, even if they aren&#039;t paid much for it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ladies!</p>
<p>Lori &#8212; Business.com was $200 per post. They worked out well in my case because the articles assigned to me ended up being very quick &#8212; less than an hour per post. And they were all approved by my editor as-delivered (from what you&#39;ve told me before, I suspect you were working with a different editor). </p>
<p>A while back I noticed that they moved the content to their main site, but they stripped our bylines. Not happy about that. </p>
<p>Paula &#8212; That&#39;s a great example of how you can use lower paying assignments to land something better. Content mills don&#39;t usually work out that way. And even when they do, the progress tends to be slower. One piece with a widely respected publication or organization can do much more for a new writer, even if they aren&#39;t paid much for it. </p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved hearing that &#034;outtake,&#034; and encourage anyone who hasn&#039;t listened the the actual podcast (or any of the others) to do so. Now. You&#039;ll learn more about what real writers think and do by listening to Jenn&#039;s free podcasts than you probably would by paying for several writing classes or webinars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember seeing listings for various content mills, but even at my most desperate I never fell prey because I earned my first clips writing features for a local newspaper that paid 10-cents per word. Within a few months I&#039;d used those clips to break into some national markets. The clips from the local paper might not have the cachet of a major daily or even a regional glossy, but they were well written and published in a real newspaper that had been around for several decades. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know how writers say they&#039;d rather flip burgers than work for a content mill? If I were that eager to build clips I&#039;d rather work for a reputable place that pays 10-cents a word (for more than most mills pay) than flip burgers or work for a content mill.&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved hearing that &quot;outtake,&quot; and encourage anyone who hasn&#39;t listened the the actual podcast (or any of the others) to do so. Now. You&#39;ll learn more about what real writers think and do by listening to Jenn&#39;s free podcasts than you probably would by paying for several writing classes or webinars.</p>
<p>I remember seeing listings for various content mills, but even at my most desperate I never fell prey because I earned my first clips writing features for a local newspaper that paid 10-cents per word. Within a few months I&#39;d used those clips to break into some national markets. The clips from the local paper might not have the cachet of a major daily or even a regional glossy, but they were well written and published in a real newspaper that had been around for several decades. </p>
<p>You know how writers say they&#39;d rather flip burgers than work for a content mill? If I were that eager to build clips I&#39;d rather work for a reputable place that pays 10-cents a word (for more than most mills pay) than flip burgers or work for a content mill.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 14:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Jenn and Lori... thanks for warning writers - there really is no &#039;easier, softer way.&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jenn and Lori&#8230; thanks for warning writers &#8211; there really is no &#39;easier, softer way.&#39;</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love me some Jenn Mattern wisdom in the morning! Thanks, Jenn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy and Sharon, I&#039;ve never gone that route. It was tempting when I was struggling, but I didn&#039;t go there. I took jobs that paid slightly more -- those business.com blog articles that paid what? $100 -150? Not great, but just a little better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the reason people go this way is it seems like an easy way to get clips. It is. But I get frustrated when they get used to heavy workloads and little cash. Worse, these kinds of clips get you little attention from more legitimate clients. Content mills have a horrific reputation with regard to accuracy, plagiarism, and saturation of bad content. Best to find something that pays a little more and has a legitimate client behind it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love me some Jenn Mattern wisdom in the morning! Thanks, Jenn.</p>
<p>Cathy and Sharon, I&#39;ve never gone that route. It was tempting when I was struggling, but I didn&#39;t go there. I took jobs that paid slightly more &#8212; those business.com blog articles that paid what? $100 -150? Not great, but just a little better.</p>
<p>I think the reason people go this way is it seems like an easy way to get clips. It is. But I get frustrated when they get used to heavy workloads and little cash. Worse, these kinds of clips get you little attention from more legitimate clients. Content mills have a horrific reputation with regard to accuracy, plagiarism, and saturation of bad content. Best to find something that pays a little more and has a legitimate client behind it.</p>
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		By: Sharon Hurley Hall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Hurley Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 13:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Twinship again, Cathy! I had a similar experience and found that they asked for too much and provided too little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great segment, ladies.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twinship again, Cathy! I had a similar experience and found that they asked for too much and provided too little.</p>
<p>Great segment, ladies.  </p>
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