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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen, Anne. If it&#039;s first, it&#039;s a red flag, but it should be in there near the beginning of the conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, excellent idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Anne. If it&#39;s first, it&#39;s a red flag, but it should be in there near the beginning of the conversation.</p>
<p>Paula, excellent idea.</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a consumer, I know I appreciate it when a plumber, electrician or other service professional breaks their hourly rate into 15-minute increments so I know I won&#039;t be charged an extra hour if they run a few minutes long. So on those rare occasions when I get to charge an hourly rate, I do that. Of course, I usually have a minimum amount, so if I knock something out super fast I still earn enough to make the effort worth my while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a consumer, I know I appreciate it when a plumber, electrician or other service professional breaks their hourly rate into 15-minute increments so I know I won&#39;t be charged an extra hour if they run a few minutes long. So on those rare occasions when I get to charge an hourly rate, I do that. Of course, I usually have a minimum amount, so if I knock something out super fast I still earn enough to make the effort worth my while.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too rarely quote an hourly rate... and I want the subject of pricing to come up early in the conversation. Not first, but soon. If it&#039;s a problem I want to address that asap... ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too rarely quote an hourly rate&#8230; and I want the subject of pricing to come up early in the conversation. Not first, but soon. If it&#39;s a problem I want to address that asap&#8230; </p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Possibly true. I don&#039;t understand why the price didn&#039;t come up sooner, but had she led with that, I would have seen the red flag immediately. The minute they focus on hourly rates, they start panicking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exactly right -- sometimes it&#039;s a quick job, other times not so much. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly true. I don&#39;t understand why the price didn&#39;t come up sooner, but had she led with that, I would have seen the red flag immediately. The minute they focus on hourly rates, they start panicking.</p>
<p>Exactly right &#8212; sometimes it&#39;s a quick job, other times not so much. 🙂</p>
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		By: KeriLynn Engel		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2015/03/writers-budgets-and-samples.html#comment-13914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KeriLynn Engel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2015 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha, yeah, I don&#039;t need anyone knowing that sometimes it might take me twice as long to write something because I&#039;m feeling sick or keep getting distracted or my cat keeps walking all over my keyboard or whatever :D&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yup, sounds like chances are that client would&#039;ve been a chore to work with anyway!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, yeah, I don&#39;t need anyone knowing that sometimes it might take me twice as long to write something because I&#39;m feeling sick or keep getting distracted or my cat keeps walking all over my keyboard or whatever 😀</p>
<p>Yup, sounds like chances are that client would&#39;ve been a chore to work with anyway!</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2015/03/writers-budgets-and-samples.html#comment-13913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keri, great comment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never shared my rate in the past because once you reduce it to hourly, they start watching the clock. I much prefer per-project rates as they&#039;re easier for clients to budget for and easier for me to avoid the &#034;But you&#039;ve spent four hours on this! Why?&#034; comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your way isn&#039;t a bad way to do it at all. Eventually, you&#039;ll come across a client who won&#039;t balk at the hourly rate no matter how high it seems. That&#039;s the sweet spot. They value your work and they know it comes with a reasonable price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For now, I suspect I&#039;ve lost the client, but if it&#039;s down to such detail, I don&#039;t think they will see the price is still the price even if stated another way it sounds worse. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keri, great comment.</p>
<p>I never shared my rate in the past because once you reduce it to hourly, they start watching the clock. I much prefer per-project rates as they&#39;re easier for clients to budget for and easier for me to avoid the &quot;But you&#39;ve spent four hours on this! Why?&quot; comments.</p>
<p>Your way isn&#39;t a bad way to do it at all. Eventually, you&#39;ll come across a client who won&#39;t balk at the hourly rate no matter how high it seems. That&#39;s the sweet spot. They value your work and they know it comes with a reasonable price.</p>
<p>For now, I suspect I&#39;ve lost the client, but if it&#39;s down to such detail, I don&#39;t think they will see the price is still the price even if stated another way it sounds worse. 🙂</p>
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		By: KeriLynn Engel		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2015/03/writers-budgets-and-samples.html#comment-13912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KeriLynn Engel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just thinking about the hourly rate thing the other day. (Warning - long comment impending!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand this depends on the writer/client/project/etc., but up until now I&#039;ve always charged per-project &#038; I avoid sharing my hourly rate for a lot of reasons. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It varies a lot by client, project, etc., and depends on a lot of factors. Some clients I have a much lower hourly rate but get other benefits from working with them. New clients have a lower hourly rate, but it rises when I get to know their needs better &#038; can work faster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a target hourly rate &#038; I meticulously track how long every assignment takes me. BUT I don&#039;t necessarily want my clients to know exactly how long everything takes me. Due to various factors, the same blog post might take me 1/2 an hour one day, or 3 hours another day. Disclosing exactly how long everything takes feels like crossing that employee-contractor line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, related to your post... I also hesitate to disclose an hourly rate because I think it does make people balk more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When an independent contractor quotes an hourly rate, one can&#039;t help but compare it to an employee hourly rate since it&#039;s an individual. It&#039;s the wrong mindset, of course, because our hourly rates aren&#039;t directly translatable into our salaries. It&#039;s the hourly rate we charge to run our &lt;i&gt;business&lt;/i&gt;, not an hourly rate for our take-home pay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But because we are individuals, not agencies or big businesses, I think people tend to automatically equate that with our salary, and balk because it sounds like we&#039;re making way too much per hour. So a client who won&#039;t bat an eye at paying $150 for a blog post may balk at paying an independent contractor $150 an hour because that&#039;s WAY more than anyone in their business makes hourly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand some work lends itself more to charging hourly, but I tend to think I&#039;d somehow find a way to quote it per-project instead :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking about the hourly rate thing the other day. (Warning &#8211; long comment impending!)</p>
<p>I understand this depends on the writer/client/project/etc., but up until now I&#39;ve always charged per-project &amp; I avoid sharing my hourly rate for a lot of reasons. </p>
<p>It varies a lot by client, project, etc., and depends on a lot of factors. Some clients I have a much lower hourly rate but get other benefits from working with them. New clients have a lower hourly rate, but it rises when I get to know their needs better &amp; can work faster.</p>
<p>I have a target hourly rate &amp; I meticulously track how long every assignment takes me. BUT I don&#39;t necessarily want my clients to know exactly how long everything takes me. Due to various factors, the same blog post might take me 1/2 an hour one day, or 3 hours another day. Disclosing exactly how long everything takes feels like crossing that employee-contractor line.</p>
<p>Now, related to your post&#8230; I also hesitate to disclose an hourly rate because I think it does make people balk more.</p>
<p>When an independent contractor quotes an hourly rate, one can&#39;t help but compare it to an employee hourly rate since it&#39;s an individual. It&#39;s the wrong mindset, of course, because our hourly rates aren&#39;t directly translatable into our salaries. It&#39;s the hourly rate we charge to run our <i>business</i>, not an hourly rate for our take-home pay.</p>
<p>But because we are individuals, not agencies or big businesses, I think people tend to automatically equate that with our salary, and balk because it sounds like we&#39;re making way too much per hour. So a client who won&#39;t bat an eye at paying $150 for a blog post may balk at paying an independent contractor $150 an hour because that&#39;s WAY more than anyone in their business makes hourly.</p>
<p>I understand some work lends itself more to charging hourly, but I tend to think I&#39;d somehow find a way to quote it per-project instead 🙂</p>
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