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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great way to approach it, Gabriella. I can tell the whole situation has you exhausted and probably frustrated. Good for you for remaining cool throughout it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great way to approach it, Gabriella. I can tell the whole situation has you exhausted and probably frustrated. Good for you for remaining cool throughout it all.</p>
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		By: Gabriella F.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriella F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 23:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Lori and Paula. I try not to burn bridges.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&#039;ve talked about this before. I&#039;ve had potential clients walk away and then come back later asking to work with me, after all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a feeling this guy will find too many writers will object, and he&#039;ll be back, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe I&#039;m wrong. Still, at least this way I have no regrets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lori and Paula. I try not to burn bridges.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve talked about this before. I&#39;ve had potential clients walk away and then come back later asking to work with me, after all.</p>
<p>I have a feeling this guy will find too many writers will object, and he&#39;ll be back, too.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#39;m wrong. Still, at least this way I have no regrets.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hear hear, Paula!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jenn, I had it on my site at one point, but I just give it out to new clients when I feel it&#039;s going to help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear, Paula!</p>
<p>Jenn, I had it on my site at one point, but I just give it out to new clients when I feel it&#39;s going to help.</p>
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		By: Jennifer Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love your idea of a how-to-work-with-a-writer guide. Do you post that on your website or do you provide it when prospects contact you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your idea of a how-to-work-with-a-writer guide. Do you post that on your website or do you provide it when prospects contact you?</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Gabriella just proved how extremely valuable she can be to that company as an independent contractor!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Gabriella just proved how extremely valuable she can be to that company as an independent contractor!</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2014/08/marketing-monday-removing-clien.html#comment-13432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Super handling of a tough situation, Gabriella. I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s a no-go at this point, but who knows? You may have opened their eyes to a real risk they&#039;re exposing themselves to. If it were me, I&#039;d be thanking you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super handling of a tough situation, Gabriella. I&#39;m sorry it&#39;s a no-go at this point, but who knows? You may have opened their eyes to a real risk they&#39;re exposing themselves to. If it were me, I&#39;d be thanking you.</p>
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		By: Gabriella F.		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2014/08/marketing-monday-removing-clien.html#comment-13431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriella F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really liked the guy, and I really appreciated his efforts to get this as far as he did. So I thanked him personally, and then I even gave this blog community a shout-out. Here&#039;s what I said...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;I really do appreciate your efforts to make this agreement more compatible with an independent contractor/company relationship, and you’ve made great strides.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I’m still uncomfortable with the remaining provisions—the audit, zero tolerance, and DNC/Can-SPAM provisions. My primary objection is that the IRS uses the “control” test to determine whether a worker is an employee or independent contractor. The more control the company exerts over a worker, the more likely that person is to be considered an employee. I’m actually surprised the legal team thinks these provisions are wise to include in an agreement with independent contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I didn’t want to be too stubborn or unreasonable, so I ran this by a personal friend who’s been a successful writer for about 15 years. I also posted a request for input on a freelance writer’s blog I read each day. We’ve developed a nice, small community of people who write for a living (not as a hobby) and who share ideas/advice on the business of writing. Anyway, to a person, they all said those provisions would also be unacceptable to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you think it would make a difference, I’m happy to send you a contract from another client or two (with their info redacted) that’s better suited to an independent contractor/company situation for your legal team to use as a baseline. Just let me know.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He said thanks and did ask for agreements, and I sent him two. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least we&#039;ve been professional.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked the guy, and I really appreciated his efforts to get this as far as he did. So I thanked him personally, and then I even gave this blog community a shout-out. Here&#39;s what I said&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;I really do appreciate your efforts to make this agreement more compatible with an independent contractor/company relationship, and you’ve made great strides.</p>
<p>However, I’m still uncomfortable with the remaining provisions—the audit, zero tolerance, and DNC/Can-SPAM provisions. My primary objection is that the IRS uses the “control” test to determine whether a worker is an employee or independent contractor. The more control the company exerts over a worker, the more likely that person is to be considered an employee. I’m actually surprised the legal team thinks these provisions are wise to include in an agreement with independent contractors.</p>
<p>Anyway, I didn’t want to be too stubborn or unreasonable, so I ran this by a personal friend who’s been a successful writer for about 15 years. I also posted a request for input on a freelance writer’s blog I read each day. We’ve developed a nice, small community of people who write for a living (not as a hobby) and who share ideas/advice on the business of writing. Anyway, to a person, they all said those provisions would also be unacceptable to them.</p>
<p>If you think it would make a difference, I’m happy to send you a contract from another client or two (with their info redacted) that’s better suited to an independent contractor/company situation for your legal team to use as a baseline. Just let me know.&quot;</p>
<p>He said thanks and did ask for agreements, and I sent him two. </p>
<p>At least we&#39;ve been professional.</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2014/08/marketing-monday-removing-clien.html#comment-13430</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How did you do with the note, Gabriella? I think I might say &#034;I have to pass on this, and I think you need to reconsider requirements that so closely resemble an employer/employee relationship.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their legal team, which I&#039;m not thinking much of at the moment, ought to take notice of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you do with the note, Gabriella? I think I might say &quot;I have to pass on this, and I think you need to reconsider requirements that so closely resemble an employer/employee relationship.&quot;</p>
<p>Their legal team, which I&#39;m not thinking much of at the moment, ought to take notice of that.</p>
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		By: Gabriella F.		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2014/08/marketing-monday-removing-clien.html#comment-13429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriella F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know, Lori! I&#039;m trying actually writing the email right now expressing my discomfort, and I&#039;m politely saying, in so many words, &#034;Dude, the IRS uses the &#039;control&#039; test to determine whether someone&#039;s an employee. Can&#039;t believe your legal team thinks it&#039;s wise to include these controlling provisions in an agreement with an IC.&#034; Sheesh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, Lori! I&#39;m trying actually writing the email right now expressing my discomfort, and I&#39;m politely saying, in so many words, &quot;Dude, the IRS uses the &#39;control&#39; test to determine whether someone&#39;s an employee. Can&#39;t believe your legal team thinks it&#39;s wise to include these controlling provisions in an agreement with an IC.&quot; Sheesh!</p>
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		By: Lori Widmer		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2014/08/marketing-monday-removing-clien.html#comment-13428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Widmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paula, I think Gabriella can do one more thing. Write back and say &#034;I&#039;m glad to be part of the company! When do my health benefits and 401(k) kick in?&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They need to be sent a clear message -- they&#039;re trying to control way too much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula, I think Gabriella can do one more thing. Write back and say &quot;I&#39;m glad to be part of the company! When do my health benefits and 401(k) kick in?&quot;</p>
<p>They need to be sent a clear message &#8212; they&#39;re trying to control way too much.</p>
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