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		By: Client Posses &#38; Perpetual Edits: When it&#039;s Time to Say &#34;No More&#34;		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 09:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] on the Page blog for the term &#8220;client posses.&#8221; She&#8217;s long recommended including a no-third-party / no-posse clause in freelance writing contracts to avoid these very [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on the Page blog for the term &#8220;client posses.&#8221; She&#8217;s long recommended including a no-third-party / no-posse clause in freelance writing contracts to avoid these very [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: 3 Times to Lower Your Freelance Writing Rates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3 Times to Lower Your Freelance Writing Rates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] many cooks in the kitchen&#034; situation. And while it helps to have what Lori Widmer likes to call a &#034;no posse clause,&#034; where you only take feedback from one contact person, it&#039;s not always [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] many cooks in the kitchen&quot; situation. And while it helps to have what Lori Widmer likes to call a &quot;no posse clause,&quot; where you only take feedback from one contact person, it&#039;s not always [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: AnnaLisa		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/11/writer-contract-primer.html#comment-11638</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great discussion--agree with everyone above. I&#039;ve never had a third party clause, but given what you&#039;ve said here AND a minor situation of my own about a year ago that easily could have snowballed into a really big deal--all because of a (nit-picky yet woefully ill-informed) third party&#039;s involvement--I will consider it seriously with the next revision. It never occurred to me that the right contract tweak could have prevented it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The timeline and client responsibilities part is so important. I write or ghost occasionally but primarily do editing. I had an editing client a couple years ago that kept asking for me to rewrite X, Y, Z but repeatedly failed to delivery her first drafts. After three months of sporadic or dead-end communication and precious little progress, I gently &#034;divorced&#034; her and added a clause that says if a client doesn&#039;t respond to email or provide materials in a reasonable amount of time that I define, it&#039;s over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My contract also includes a confidentiality clause. That satisfies a legitimate client need and eliminates the necessity for exchanging a separate contract to protect the client&#039;s interests. I also state clearly that I am an independent contractor, not an employee, and therefore not bound to the client&#039;s office hours, procedures, etc. I specify that I don&#039;t do phone calls at all without an appointment and prefer email for most communication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My contract has gotten kind of long, but it does what it needs to do!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion&#8211;agree with everyone above. I&#39;ve never had a third party clause, but given what you&#39;ve said here AND a minor situation of my own about a year ago that easily could have snowballed into a really big deal&#8211;all because of a (nit-picky yet woefully ill-informed) third party&#39;s involvement&#8211;I will consider it seriously with the next revision. It never occurred to me that the right contract tweak could have prevented it.</p>
<p>The timeline and client responsibilities part is so important. I write or ghost occasionally but primarily do editing. I had an editing client a couple years ago that kept asking for me to rewrite X, Y, Z but repeatedly failed to delivery her first drafts. After three months of sporadic or dead-end communication and precious little progress, I gently &quot;divorced&quot; her and added a clause that says if a client doesn&#39;t respond to email or provide materials in a reasonable amount of time that I define, it&#39;s over.</p>
<p>My contract also includes a confidentiality clause. That satisfies a legitimate client need and eliminates the necessity for exchanging a separate contract to protect the client&#39;s interests. I also state clearly that I am an independent contractor, not an employee, and therefore not bound to the client&#39;s office hours, procedures, etc. I specify that I don&#39;t do phone calls at all without an appointment and prefer email for most communication.</p>
<p>My contract has gotten kind of long, but it does what it needs to do!</p>
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		By: rose taylor		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/11/writer-contract-primer.html#comment-11591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rose taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know a few writers who now rely completely on email confirmations when kicking off a new project, but I just can&#039;t do it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://elegitonlinejobs.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;legit online jobs&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a few writers who now rely completely on email confirmations when kicking off a new project, but I just can&#39;t do it. <br /><a href="http://elegitonlinejobs.com/" rel="nofollow">legit online jobs</a></p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/11/writer-contract-primer.html#comment-11587</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EP, it&#039;s something that&#039;s easy to slip into, frankly. I&#039;ve done it myself. Luckily, when the &#034;stuff&#034; has hit the fan, though, a contract was in place. Once or twice, though, there hasn&#039;t been one when I needed it and I had to take the hit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For most things with clients you&#039;ve known forever, I&#039;d say email is fine. Where it becomes dodgy is when it&#039;s a new client and they decide to change the rules.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EP, it&#39;s something that&#39;s easy to slip into, frankly. I&#39;ve done it myself. Luckily, when the &quot;stuff&quot; has hit the fan, though, a contract was in place. Once or twice, though, there hasn&#39;t been one when I needed it and I had to take the hit.</p>
<p>For most things with clients you&#39;ve known forever, I&#39;d say email is fine. Where it becomes dodgy is when it&#39;s a new client and they decide to change the rules.</p>
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		By: EP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although I can understand your hesitance about relying completely on email confirmations when it comes to contracts, I just kind of slipped into using emails for this because of the convenience and, well, I&#039;ve been lucky so far. Knock on wood. If it were a &#034;big&#034; contract (everybody defines this differently), though, I&#039;m not so sure what I would do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I can understand your hesitance about relying completely on email confirmations when it comes to contracts, I just kind of slipped into using emails for this because of the convenience and, well, I&#39;ve been lucky so far. Knock on wood. If it were a &quot;big&quot; contract (everybody defines this differently), though, I&#39;m not so sure what I would do.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/11/writer-contract-primer.html#comment-11579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Devon, I have a client right now who&#039;s &#034;telling&#034; me there won&#039;t be late fees paid. Considering how late this client is on payment, that&#039;s ironic that there&#039;s the assumption that I&#039;ll accept that. I have the collection agency ready to go -- just keep pressing your luck, client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kim, you&#039;re definitely doing the right thing for exactly the right reasons. Sometimes they just don&#039;t pay or decide &#034;I didn&#039;t use it, therefore...&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nonsense. I still had to do the work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devon, I have a client right now who&#39;s &quot;telling&quot; me there won&#39;t be late fees paid. Considering how late this client is on payment, that&#39;s ironic that there&#39;s the assumption that I&#39;ll accept that. I have the collection agency ready to go &#8212; just keep pressing your luck, client.</p>
<p>Kim, you&#39;re definitely doing the right thing for exactly the right reasons. Sometimes they just don&#39;t pay or decide &quot;I didn&#39;t use it, therefore&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Nonsense. I still had to do the work.</p>
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		By: Kimberly Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimberly Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A writer friend and I disagree over the importance of spelling out terms in contracts. She no longer sends clients a contract hard copy because she says email confirmation is a legal verification and good enough without too much complication. I still send each client I work with a written contract the clearly spell out my terms of service. I know a few writers who now rely completely on email confirmations when kicking off a new project, but I just can&#039;t do it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of a previous post on your blog, I&#039;ve added a &#034;No third party clause.&#034; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A writer friend and I disagree over the importance of spelling out terms in contracts. She no longer sends clients a contract hard copy because she says email confirmation is a legal verification and good enough without too much complication. I still send each client I work with a written contract the clearly spell out my terms of service. I know a few writers who now rely completely on email confirmations when kicking off a new project, but I just can&#39;t do it. </p>
<p>Because of a previous post on your blog, I&#39;ve added a &quot;No third party clause.&quot; </p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/11/writer-contract-primer.html#comment-11577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, I find it important to include late fee clauses -- and that the fees will accrue if it continues to lapse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also now bill for phone class, X amount peer 15 minute increment (like a lawyer) to be billed each Friday and paid the following week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When they have to pay for wasting your time on the phone, they waste a lot less of it.  This replaces my &#034;no phone calls&#034; clause, although I still have in that my phone is OFF most of the day, although I will check in for messages, and set a phone date at the above rate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All important.</p>
<p>Also, I find it important to include late fee clauses &#8212; and that the fees will accrue if it continues to lapse.</p>
<p>I also now bill for phone class, X amount peer 15 minute increment (like a lawyer) to be billed each Friday and paid the following week.</p>
<p>When they have to pay for wasting your time on the phone, they waste a lot less of it.  This replaces my &quot;no phone calls&quot; clause, although I still have in that my phone is OFF most of the day, although I will check in for messages, and set a phone date at the above rate.</p>
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