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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Devon. :) I love it, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree on the spreadsheet. We&#039;re spreadsheet-ed to our eyeballs right now, and there are just too many things going on at once. Mine is one small part of that effort. That doesn&#039;t make it any easier to get the info from the people in question. One contact flat-out refused to help with the additional info. I passed that info along. I have to honor that, as does the client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, you know me! Blunt is nothing I&#039;m afraid of, and I think she&#039;d appreciate it! Good suggestion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy, my gut has been uneasy about this entire relationship for a few months now. Factors beyond the client&#039;s client have tied my hands (at the client level), so I&#039;m uneasy with putting too much billable time into chasing these people. But I&#039;m going to take your advice one step further -- I&#039;m going to call the sources directly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, agreed. And if this person were an editor, I&#039;d get no push-back on the &#034;I tried three times&#034; thinking. Alas, it&#039;s a business owner, and rarely do business owners think that something isn&#039;t going to happen because they asked. ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Devon. 🙂 I love it, too.</p>
<p>I agree on the spreadsheet. We&#39;re spreadsheet-ed to our eyeballs right now, and there are just too many things going on at once. Mine is one small part of that effort. That doesn&#39;t make it any easier to get the info from the people in question. One contact flat-out refused to help with the additional info. I passed that info along. I have to honor that, as does the client.</p>
<p>Oh, you know me! Blunt is nothing I&#39;m afraid of, and I think she&#39;d appreciate it! Good suggestion.</p>
<p>Cathy, my gut has been uneasy about this entire relationship for a few months now. Factors beyond the client&#39;s client have tied my hands (at the client level), so I&#39;m uneasy with putting too much billable time into chasing these people. But I&#39;m going to take your advice one step further &#8212; I&#39;m going to call the sources directly.</p>
<p>Paula, agreed. And if this person were an editor, I&#39;d get no push-back on the &quot;I tried three times&quot; thinking. Alas, it&#39;s a business owner, and rarely do business owners think that something isn&#39;t going to happen because they asked. 😉</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a similar situation going on: I turned in a huge article with one missing piece. All along the way I&#039;d told the editor about the trouble I was having getting that information (using bullet points in update e-mails just like you, Lori). When I sent in the article I reiterated that I was still actively trying to find those sources to add later. Instead of thanking me for sending 2500 words to work on while waiting for the missing links, she sent a terse e-mail reminding me how important the information was. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;D&#039;uh. I totally wanted to remind her about everything I&#039;d already told her, but knew that wouldn&#039;t be helpful. (I did however point out that I&#039;d already spent too much time fruitlessly chasing these iffy leads and could only afford to spend one more hour of time on it.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is, when you try to defend yourself by explaining why the piece is late or incomplete (despite saying upfront that you&#039;re still actively working on it), some people will assume you&#039;re making excuses. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;I&#039;ve contacted over 20 companies to find an executive to answer these questions;no one has agreed to be interviewed,&#034; isn&#039;t an excuse. It&#039;s an explanation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matter-of-factly saying you&#039;re still waiting for Person A to provide the needed information is not shifting blame, it&#039;s saying you&#039;re in the same boat with the client or editor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The editor in question always asks how many times I&#039;ve tried contacting each person. I&#039;m with you Lori - three tries and that&#039;s it. E-mail, phone, and then one last try. Nagging never works. Nor does forcing professional writers to account for every action. (It&#039;s totally passive-aggressive, but since this place requires weekly updates, I started including how much time I spent transcribing interviews just to remind her how much effort goes into each assignment.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar situation going on: I turned in a huge article with one missing piece. All along the way I&#39;d told the editor about the trouble I was having getting that information (using bullet points in update e-mails just like you, Lori). When I sent in the article I reiterated that I was still actively trying to find those sources to add later. Instead of thanking me for sending 2500 words to work on while waiting for the missing links, she sent a terse e-mail reminding me how important the information was. </p>
<p>D&#39;uh. I totally wanted to remind her about everything I&#39;d already told her, but knew that wouldn&#39;t be helpful. (I did however point out that I&#39;d already spent too much time fruitlessly chasing these iffy leads and could only afford to spend one more hour of time on it.)</p>
<p>The problem is, when you try to defend yourself by explaining why the piece is late or incomplete (despite saying upfront that you&#39;re still actively working on it), some people will assume you&#39;re making excuses. </p>
<p>&quot;I&#39;ve contacted over 20 companies to find an executive to answer these questions;no one has agreed to be interviewed,&quot; isn&#39;t an excuse. It&#39;s an explanation. </p>
<p>Matter-of-factly saying you&#39;re still waiting for Person A to provide the needed information is not shifting blame, it&#39;s saying you&#39;re in the same boat with the client or editor.</p>
<p>The editor in question always asks how many times I&#39;ve tried contacting each person. I&#39;m with you Lori &#8211; three tries and that&#39;s it. E-mail, phone, and then one last try. Nagging never works. Nor does forcing professional writers to account for every action. (It&#39;s totally passive-aggressive, but since this place requires weekly updates, I started including how much time I spent transcribing interviews just to remind her how much effort goes into each assignment.)</p>
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		By: Cathy Miller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What works for me nearly every time is picking up the phone and having a conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like you, Lori, I give regular updates, but sometimes you just sense in emails that a problem is brewing. I don&#039;t know the situation, but sometimes my client can help with the part getting stalled. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go with your gut. It&#039;s seldom wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What works for me nearly every time is picking up the phone and having a conversation.</p>
<p>Like you, Lori, I give regular updates, but sometimes you just sense in emails that a problem is brewing. I don&#39;t know the situation, but sometimes my client can help with the part getting stalled. </p>
<p>Go with your gut. It&#39;s seldom wrong.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2012/08/first-second-and-third-impressions.html#comment-11172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely love the new look.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve made a bad impression at some point.  There are points where I&#039;ve just had to cut bait.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this case, I&#039;d suggest a spread sheet with all the projects and all the deadlines, including the deadlines you&#039;re giving sources to get back to you so that you can get back to the client.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d have a conversation with this woman and be very up front about what you feel is going on, and offer solutions to mitigate the frustration on both sides.  She&#039;s blunt -- you can be, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely love the new look.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure I&#39;ve made a bad impression at some point.  There are points where I&#39;ve just had to cut bait.</p>
<p>In this case, I&#39;d suggest a spread sheet with all the projects and all the deadlines, including the deadlines you&#39;re giving sources to get back to you so that you can get back to the client.</p>
<p>I&#39;d have a conversation with this woman and be very up front about what you feel is going on, and offer solutions to mitigate the frustration on both sides.  She&#39;s blunt &#8212; you can be, too.</p>
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