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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori &#038; Devon, thanks for explaining how you handle the late fees. On your invoice (or in your contract) how do you refer to, as Devon said, the cumulative nature of those fees?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lori: I ordered myself a weather radio. Same one that was so hard to find my brother for Christmas. It was even on sale - $5 less than his cost. I had to get the same color (pretty metallic cranberry red) since the other colors weren&#039;t on sale. Free shipping too! (You know how I love free shipping.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori &amp; Devon, thanks for explaining how you handle the late fees. On your invoice (or in your contract) how do you refer to, as Devon said, the cumulative nature of those fees?</p>
<p>Lori: I ordered myself a weather radio. Same one that was so hard to find my brother for Christmas. It was even on sale &#8211; $5 less than his cost. I had to get the same color (pretty metallic cranberry red) since the other colors weren&#39;t on sale. Free shipping too! (You know how I love free shipping.)</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I created my own template.  On the bottom, it reinforces the relevant contract terms, such as the 20% late fee, the cumulative nature of the late fee, and, if needed, the payment schedule.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Depending on the project, I either ask for 50% up front and 50% upon delivery of the finished project (which usually includes two rounds of revisions).  Additional revisions or change of direction are billed at my regular hourly fee.  That&#039;s both in the contract and on the bottom of the invoice.  Larger projects are 1/3 up front, 1/3 at a PRE-AGREED, contracted midpoint, and the final 1/3 at the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula -- I use Lori&#039;s formula.  I&#039;m not credit card company, so I don&#039;t compound daily interest.  At the end of 30 days, it&#039;s X fee, wait another thirty days, the next 20% is tacked on to the original amount + original 20%, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Usually one late fee tacked on does the trick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade,</p>
<p>I created my own template.  On the bottom, it reinforces the relevant contract terms, such as the 20% late fee, the cumulative nature of the late fee, and, if needed, the payment schedule.</p>
<p>Depending on the project, I either ask for 50% up front and 50% upon delivery of the finished project (which usually includes two rounds of revisions).  Additional revisions or change of direction are billed at my regular hourly fee.  That&#39;s both in the contract and on the bottom of the invoice.  Larger projects are 1/3 up front, 1/3 at a PRE-AGREED, contracted midpoint, and the final 1/3 at the end.</p>
<p>Paula &#8212; I use Lori&#39;s formula.  I&#39;m not credit card company, so I don&#39;t compound daily interest.  At the end of 30 days, it&#39;s X fee, wait another thirty days, the next 20% is tacked on to the original amount + original 20%, and so on.</p>
<p>Usually one late fee tacked on does the trick.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Wade - I missed all your questions. I was wrangling with Blogger again. :(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you, Wendy, for helping Wade out. :) I&#039;ll add this - for that final payment, put an end date to it. I had a client once who took a year to get the project done in his mind. Because I hadn&#039;t stipulated that payment came at say March or May, I had to wait a year for final payment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Wade &#8211; I missed all your questions. I was wrangling with Blogger again. 🙁</p>
<p>Thank you, Wendy, for helping Wade out. 🙂 I&#39;ll add this &#8211; for that final payment, put an end date to it. I had a client once who took a year to get the project done in his mind. Because I hadn&#39;t stipulated that payment came at say March or May, I had to wait a year for final payment.</p>
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		By: Wade Finnegan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade Finnegan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Wendy, this is something I need to consider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Wendy, this is something I need to consider.</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wade, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the bigger projects, there should be an upfront fee or deposit fee, which says that nothing gets done until you receive that payment. If I&#039;m doing something like an eBook, there&#039;s usually a mid-way payment and a final payment along with the deposit. Plus, I retain the rights to it until the final payment is received and clears the bank. It&#039;s stated in the negotiation stage and laid out in the contract that they sign. Of course, it&#039;s up to you, but I learned from being burned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade, </p>
<p>For the bigger projects, there should be an upfront fee or deposit fee, which says that nothing gets done until you receive that payment. If I&#39;m doing something like an eBook, there&#39;s usually a mid-way payment and a final payment along with the deposit. Plus, I retain the rights to it until the final payment is received and clears the bank. It&#39;s stated in the negotiation stage and laid out in the contract that they sign. Of course, it&#39;s up to you, but I learned from being burned.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that&#039;s fantastic, Anne. No room to misinterpret that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#39;s fantastic, Anne. No room to misinterpret that!</p>
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		By: anne wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anne wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[my contracts actually say &#039;if you stop paying, I stop writing.&#039; They also say &#039;if I stop writing you stop  paying.&#039; I don&#039;t have collection problems... my clients seem happy to pay me... are happy to pay me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And thanks for the link!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my contracts actually say &#39;if you stop paying, I stop writing.&#39; They also say &#39;if I stop writing you stop  paying.&#39; I don&#39;t have collection problems&#8230; my clients seem happy to pay me&#8230; are happy to pay me.</p>
<p>And thanks for the link!</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s emotional blackmail, Kim (on his part, not yours), and you&#039;re smart not to fall for it. Friendship is valid until the check bounces or doesn&#039;t arrive. LOL&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wade, I use my own Word document. Just a simple file with my name, address and contact info (NEVER the SS#), and To, Deliverables, and Amount Due. I include a note at the bottom to pay upon receipt to avoid late fees. That changes if they are late to a litigation notice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, here&#039;s Lori&#039;s really simple-yet-accurate calculation for compounded interest (really simple - I&#039;m not a math whiz, either) -- say they owe $1,000. Your late fee is 20 percent, so they now owe you $1,200 (.20 X 1,000 on the calculator). If in 60 days they haven&#039;t paid yet again, you&#039;ll assess the late fee on top of that new total (.20 X $1,200). That&#039;s what they owe you to avoid litigation. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow! You guys have seen the weather this year, haven&#039;t you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s emotional blackmail, Kim (on his part, not yours), and you&#39;re smart not to fall for it. Friendship is valid until the check bounces or doesn&#39;t arrive. LOL</p>
<p>Wade, I use my own Word document. Just a simple file with my name, address and contact info (NEVER the SS#), and To, Deliverables, and Amount Due. I include a note at the bottom to pay upon receipt to avoid late fees. That changes if they are late to a litigation notice.</p>
<p>Paula, here&#39;s Lori&#39;s really simple-yet-accurate calculation for compounded interest (really simple &#8211; I&#39;m not a math whiz, either) &#8212; say they owe $1,000. Your late fee is 20 percent, so they now owe you $1,200 (.20 X 1,000 on the calculator). If in 60 days they haven&#39;t paid yet again, you&#39;ll assess the late fee on top of that new total (.20 X $1,200). That&#39;s what they owe you to avoid litigation. 🙂</p>
<p>Wow! You guys have seen the weather this year, haven&#39;t you?</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The one or two clients I&#039;ve had who&#039;ve played fast and loose with their own payment terms (as stated in the contract) share one common trait: They assume freelance writers all have other sources of income. I make it clear that they are dealing with a professional, not a dilettante. My freelance income is 100% of my household income, so I can&#039;t mess around with late-payers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing I&#039;d like to know, though, is how to figure out late fees that are compounded daily (or whatever). What percent and how do you calculate it? (Remember, I stink at math.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW - Lori: Massive bow echo blew through before 7 AM, knocking out power to more than 660,000 people in N. Illinois. We had an 80-mph gust reported in my part of town. I was lucky. One small branch off a huge tree and my power, phone, and cable are still working!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one or two clients I&#39;ve had who&#39;ve played fast and loose with their own payment terms (as stated in the contract) share one common trait: They assume freelance writers all have other sources of income. I make it clear that they are dealing with a professional, not a dilettante. My freelance income is 100% of my household income, so I can&#39;t mess around with late-payers.</p>
<p>One thing I&#39;d like to know, though, is how to figure out late fees that are compounded daily (or whatever). What percent and how do you calculate it? (Remember, I stink at math.)</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Lori: Massive bow echo blew through before 7 AM, knocking out power to more than 660,000 people in N. Illinois. We had an 80-mph gust reported in my part of town. I was lucky. One small branch off a huge tree and my power, phone, and cable are still working!</p>
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		By: Wade Finnegan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade Finnegan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does the invoice structure have any bearing? I put together a generic invoice using googledocs and was wondering if having a program generated invoice is more authoritative? Do most freelancers have payment plans? And do you require an upfront payment? I&#039;m full of questions this morning, but I&#039;m always curious how other people do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hey Lori, did you find a pic you could send me? Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the invoice structure have any bearing? I put together a generic invoice using googledocs and was wondering if having a program generated invoice is more authoritative? Do most freelancers have payment plans? And do you require an upfront payment? I&#39;m full of questions this morning, but I&#39;m always curious how other people do it.</p>
<p>Hey Lori, did you find a pic you could send me? Thanks!</p>
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