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		By: Mridu Khullar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mridu Khullar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 04:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yet, so many writers will continue to sign (and advise others to sign) all-rights contracts. It&#039;s the same principle. If you do good work, you see not a dime while someone else will profit from your words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, so many writers will continue to sign (and advise others to sign) all-rights contracts. It&#39;s the same principle. If you do good work, you see not a dime while someone else will profit from your words.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anne, usually I have the live-and-let-live approach, but sometimes I get tired beating my head against the same wall. And then I wonder why I do. I care, but am I caring too much? Probably.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My goal is to inform (and yes, pester a bit). :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jenn, good point. I suspect there are plenty of new writers (and plenty of veterans, too) who just walk into the job without too much thought. You can learn on the fly in many cases, but it&#039;s so much smarter to have a plan of attack and know the minefields.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, usually I have the live-and-let-live approach, but sometimes I get tired beating my head against the same wall. And then I wonder why I do. I care, but am I caring too much? Probably.</p>
<p>My goal is to inform (and yes, pester a bit). 🙂</p>
<p>Jenn, good point. I suspect there are plenty of new writers (and plenty of veterans, too) who just walk into the job without too much thought. You can learn on the fly in many cases, but it&#39;s so much smarter to have a plan of attack and know the minefields.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, I wonder what folks would have said about the pay during the &#034;golden age of science fiction&#034; or back when Dickens wrote long because he was paid by the word. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m just not bothered by people who somehow can&#039;t manage to get paid decently for their writing. There are enough of us, me, you, Jenn, -- well your whole list of links or mine -- that are telling them exactly what to do... Maybe I&#039;m just not in the mood for it today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I wonder what folks would have said about the pay during the &quot;golden age of science fiction&quot; or back when Dickens wrote long because he was paid by the word. </p>
<p>I&#39;m just not bothered by people who somehow can&#39;t manage to get paid decently for their writing. There are enough of us, me, you, Jenn, &#8212; well your whole list of links or mine &#8212; that are telling them exactly what to do&#8230; Maybe I&#39;m just not in the mood for it today.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, I wonder what folks would have said about the pay during the &#034;golden age of science fiction&#034; or back when Dickens wrote long because he was paid by the word. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m just not bothered by people who somehow can&#039;t manage to get paid decently for their writing. There are enough of us, me, you, Jenn, -- well your whole list of links or mine -- that are telling them exactly what to do... Maybe I&#039;m just not in the mood for it today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I wonder what folks would have said about the pay during the &quot;golden age of science fiction&quot; or back when Dickens wrote long because he was paid by the word. </p>
<p>I&#39;m just not bothered by people who somehow can&#39;t manage to get paid decently for their writing. There are enough of us, me, you, Jenn, &#8212; well your whole list of links or mine &#8212; that are telling them exactly what to do&#8230; Maybe I&#39;m just not in the mood for it today.</p>
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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cathy -- The biggest difference I see now is that there are a LOT of people exposing these &#034;opportunities&#034; for what they are. So really, for anyone serious about a freelance career to fall into those traps today is unbelievable. You&#039;d have to be completely ignoring your market research responsibilities when starting a business. And if they&#039;re in that camp, they probably don&#039;t deserve any better yet anyway. Those who learn seem to learn fairly quickly and move on to better things. But with all of the information out there today, I find it increasingly difficult to have any sympathy for people who make those mistakes out of ignorance (about what&#039;s required or about seeing through the hype).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy &#8212; The biggest difference I see now is that there are a LOT of people exposing these &quot;opportunities&quot; for what they are. So really, for anyone serious about a freelance career to fall into those traps today is unbelievable. You&#39;d have to be completely ignoring your market research responsibilities when starting a business. And if they&#39;re in that camp, they probably don&#39;t deserve any better yet anyway. Those who learn seem to learn fairly quickly and move on to better things. But with all of the information out there today, I find it increasingly difficult to have any sympathy for people who make those mistakes out of ignorance (about what&#39;s required or about seeing through the hype).</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wendy, don&#039;t forget how easy the job is for the right person! How can we pass these up? You would LOVE the links Gabriella&#039;s shared in the past! The site is The Content Farm, and it&#039;s full of the most hilarious articles mocking the mill style. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s a great idea, Hugh! Maybe one of us should start that.... ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re right. We undervalue our skills and we are a commodity. I&#039;m hopeful (born with a Susie Sunshine attitude gets tiresome) that writers will wake up and embrace their value. Sadly though, I think Jake&#039;s correct in thinking it&#039;s not happening as long as starry-eyed noobs take what comes without question.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gabriella, I have to thank you again for the link to The Content Farm. It&#039;s hysterical!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, LOL! You&#039;re probably right. Those working for farms aren&#039;t able to see beyond the quota perhaps. And that client experience you had is just weird! Why would geography matter in payment if it doesn&#039;t matter in the job being performed?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, don&#39;t forget how easy the job is for the right person! How can we pass these up? You would LOVE the links Gabriella&#39;s shared in the past! The site is The Content Farm, and it&#39;s full of the most hilarious articles mocking the mill style. 🙂</p>
<p>That&#39;s a great idea, Hugh! Maybe one of us should start that&#8230;. 😉</p>
<p>You&#39;re right. We undervalue our skills and we are a commodity. I&#39;m hopeful (born with a Susie Sunshine attitude gets tiresome) that writers will wake up and embrace their value. Sadly though, I think Jake&#39;s correct in thinking it&#39;s not happening as long as starry-eyed noobs take what comes without question.</p>
<p>Gabriella, I have to thank you again for the link to The Content Farm. It&#39;s hysterical!</p>
<p>Paula, LOL! You&#39;re probably right. Those working for farms aren&#39;t able to see beyond the quota perhaps. And that client experience you had is just weird! Why would geography matter in payment if it doesn&#39;t matter in the job being performed?</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sadly, Lori, the mill &#034;writers&#034; you hope will wise up after hearing about the HuffPo / AOL deal are probably too busy cranking out content to hear about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I regret trusting one of my first regular markets. I assumed they paid all writers the same rate, but later learned they paid non-local writers more than local writers. They seemed to think geographic location dictated quality - that&#039;s like the neighbor having a garage sale who put higher prices on old clothes just because they were purchased in California. She didn&#039;t catch the sarcasm when a shopper said, &#034;Oh, then they must be special.&#034; Like they don&#039;t have Target in California, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, Lori, the mill &quot;writers&quot; you hope will wise up after hearing about the HuffPo / AOL deal are probably too busy cranking out content to hear about it.</p>
<p>I regret trusting one of my first regular markets. I assumed they paid all writers the same rate, but later learned they paid non-local writers more than local writers. They seemed to think geographic location dictated quality &#8211; that&#39;s like the neighbor having a garage sale who put higher prices on old clothes just because they were purchased in California. She didn&#39;t catch the sarcasm when a shopper said, &quot;Oh, then they must be special.&quot; Like they don&#39;t have Target in California, too.</p>
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		By: Gabriella F.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriella F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is soooo true, Lori.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And well said, Hugh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is soooo true, Lori.</p>
<p>And well said, Hugh!</p>
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		By: hugh.c.mcbride		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My quick take on the HuffPo kerfluffle is that writers should take away two lessons:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. A whole lot of us drastically undervalue what we do.&lt;br /&gt;2. What we do has significant value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I realize those are simplistic statements - but if nothing else, the HuffPo financial revelations should drive home the point that there is real cash money to be made from arranging words in an interesting, informative or otherwise intriguing manner. I don&#039;t expect the writing landscape to change overnight, but I do hope this is somewhat of a clarion call to those who think that content is just what you hire a minimum-wager to slap together to fill the blank spaces once the design crew gets done doing the real work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s almost like we need to dedicate a day to focus on the worth of writers ... Hmmm ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My quick take on the HuffPo kerfluffle is that writers should take away two lessons:</p>
<p>1. A whole lot of us drastically undervalue what we do.<br />2. What we do has significant value.</p>
<p>I realize those are simplistic statements &#8211; but if nothing else, the HuffPo financial revelations should drive home the point that there is real cash money to be made from arranging words in an interesting, informative or otherwise intriguing manner. I don&#39;t expect the writing landscape to change overnight, but I do hope this is somewhat of a clarion call to those who think that content is just what you hire a minimum-wager to slap together to fill the blank spaces once the design crew gets done doing the real work.</p>
<p>It&#39;s almost like we need to dedicate a day to focus on the worth of writers &#8230; Hmmm &#8230;.</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, but, Lori, it’s okay to take on those jobs. You get to work from home, in your pj’s, doing what you love on a flexible schedule, while spending more time with your kids!! I’m sure you can come up with a bunch more hype-marketing statements that they try to lure people in with. Don’t you just want to start decking people that treat them as benefits?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but, Lori, it’s okay to take on those jobs. You get to work from home, in your pj’s, doing what you love on a flexible schedule, while spending more time with your kids!! I’m sure you can come up with a bunch more hype-marketing statements that they try to lure people in with. Don’t you just want to start decking people that treat them as benefits?</p>
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