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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jessie, I think he understands you can&#039;t be expected to work for free forever. I would hope so, anyway. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of waiting for him to offer payment, tell him you appreciate his thinking of you, and the price is XXXX. Only if he balks should you offer the discount. He may be someone you&#039;re fond of and who gave you something to do, but it was unpaid work and any more freebies are taking advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re right - asking for a freebie is like walking into a store and just taking what you want without paying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessie, I think he understands you can&#39;t be expected to work for free forever. I would hope so, anyway. </p>
<p>Instead of waiting for him to offer payment, tell him you appreciate his thinking of you, and the price is XXXX. Only if he balks should you offer the discount. He may be someone you&#39;re fond of and who gave you something to do, but it was unpaid work and any more freebies are taking advantage.</p>
<p>You&#39;re right &#8211; asking for a freebie is like walking into a store and just taking what you want without paying.</p>
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		By: Jessie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sheesh.  It must take a lot of balls to just ask for something for free that normally costs money.  I mean, who would ever walk into a store and do that?  Anyway, stick to your guns, Lori, and hopefully everything will turn out all right and the client will realize what an imposition they&#039;re making.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a similar but not quite situation where one of my pro-bono &#034;portfolio builder&#034; clients just asked me if I was available to do another project for him.  No mention of pay though. I&#039;m going to tell him I&#039;d be happy to do it for him at a 30% &#034;friends and family&#034; discount since he helped give me my start in writing but that I can&#039;t do it for free as I need to concentrate on paid projects now.  I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m going to lose the testimonial he offered to give me.  I was afraid I might lose referrals from him too, but on the other hand I don&#039;t want him referring me to people as the girl who&#039;ll work for free either.  Who knows though, maybe I&#039;ll be pleasantly surprised and he&#039;ll agree to pay me for my work.  He &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; been very nice to work with so far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh.  It must take a lot of balls to just ask for something for free that normally costs money.  I mean, who would ever walk into a store and do that?  Anyway, stick to your guns, Lori, and hopefully everything will turn out all right and the client will realize what an imposition they&#39;re making.</p>
<p>I have a similar but not quite situation where one of my pro-bono &quot;portfolio builder&quot; clients just asked me if I was available to do another project for him.  No mention of pay though. I&#39;m going to tell him I&#39;d be happy to do it for him at a 30% &quot;friends and family&quot; discount since he helped give me my start in writing but that I can&#39;t do it for free as I need to concentrate on paid projects now.  I&#39;m afraid I&#39;m going to lose the testimonial he offered to give me.  I was afraid I might lose referrals from him too, but on the other hand I don&#39;t want him referring me to people as the girl who&#39;ll work for free either.  Who knows though, maybe I&#39;ll be pleasantly surprised and he&#39;ll agree to pay me for my work.  He <i>has</i> been very nice to work with so far.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Kathy! I&#039;m just bursting with pride. She&#039;s a Comm major. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Solution for that chatty person - when you answer, preface the conversation with &#034;I have about five minutes before I get on another call. Can we rap it up or should we just push this to email?&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is refreshing, Paula, even with the paperwork! Good to hear. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks, Anne. Now the task of her finding a job. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We had termites about six years ago. This is preventative work. After getting rid of them that year, it&#039;s been clear sailing. Amen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kathy! I&#39;m just bursting with pride. She&#39;s a Comm major. 🙂</p>
<p>Solution for that chatty person &#8211; when you answer, preface the conversation with &quot;I have about five minutes before I get on another call. Can we rap it up or should we just push this to email?&quot;</p>
<p>It is refreshing, Paula, even with the paperwork! Good to hear. 🙂</p>
<p>Thanks, Anne. Now the task of her finding a job. 🙂</p>
<p>We had termites about six years ago. This is preventative work. After getting rid of them that year, it&#39;s been clear sailing. Amen!</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Congrats to you and your daughter?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Annual termite inspections? Here in CA we pray they keep holding hands ;) and only inspect on sale or when they become visible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I do free stuff for good clients... hard to quantify... depends on what they want and what else is on my plate, but although I do some, it&#039;s usually not much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hugs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to you and your daughter?</p>
<p>Annual termite inspections? Here in CA we pray they keep holding hands 😉 and only inspect on sale or when they become visible.</p>
<p>Sometimes I do free stuff for good clients&#8230; hard to quantify&#8230; depends on what they want and what else is on my plate, but although I do some, it&#39;s usually not much.</p>
<p>Hugs</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I decide to give freebies occasionally, too, usually it&#039;s tossing in sidebar. One place I write for asks its writers to share interviews sometimes. If I&#039;m interviewing someone they need, I&#039;ll ask their questions. If they&#039;re already set to interview someone I need, I send them a few questions and they send me the interviewee&#039;s answers. It all balances out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I&#039;m fighting to finish (okay...start, if you want to get technical) a small project, but have been hit by a pile of a paperwork from a potential new client. It&#039;s a fairly big company, and you have to got through a quick screening to ensure you really are a professional writer and file your taxes, etc... I was going to get my supporting documentation sent in now, but decided I better do that after the paying work is done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As annoying as it is to prove I&#039;m in business, it&#039;s kind of refreshing that in this era of cheap content mill labor, some companies are taking steps to make certain the people they hire are legitimate professionals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decide to give freebies occasionally, too, usually it&#39;s tossing in sidebar. One place I write for asks its writers to share interviews sometimes. If I&#39;m interviewing someone they need, I&#39;ll ask their questions. If they&#39;re already set to interview someone I need, I send them a few questions and they send me the interviewee&#39;s answers. It all balances out.</p>
<p>Today I&#39;m fighting to finish (okay&#8230;start, if you want to get technical) a small project, but have been hit by a pile of a paperwork from a potential new client. It&#39;s a fairly big company, and you have to got through a quick screening to ensure you really are a professional writer and file your taxes, etc&#8230; I was going to get my supporting documentation sent in now, but decided I better do that after the paying work is done.</p>
<p>As annoying as it is to prove I&#39;m in business, it&#39;s kind of refreshing that in this era of cheap content mill labor, some companies are taking steps to make certain the people they hire are legitimate professionals.</p>
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		By: Irreverent Freelancer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irreverent Freelancer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off, congratulations to your daughter and to you her proud momma. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The holidays are not a time to be handing out free work. Even if you&#039;re not busy workwise, there are so many other things you can and should be doing with your time. My rule of thumb is if I can answer a question or perform a task in 15 minutes or less, I&#039;ll do it for a client who provides me a steady stream of projects. After that, it&#039;s taking up time I can be spending on work that pays and therefore is no longer free. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve currently got an individual at one of the companies I write for who, all of a sudden, likes to gab on the phone. I don&#039;t usually charge for phone consultations, but one hour? No, WAY too much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, congratulations to your daughter and to you her proud momma. </p>
<p>The holidays are not a time to be handing out free work. Even if you&#39;re not busy workwise, there are so many other things you can and should be doing with your time. My rule of thumb is if I can answer a question or perform a task in 15 minutes or less, I&#39;ll do it for a client who provides me a steady stream of projects. After that, it&#39;s taking up time I can be spending on work that pays and therefore is no longer free. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve currently got an individual at one of the companies I write for who, all of a sudden, likes to gab on the phone. I don&#39;t usually charge for phone consultations, but one hour? No, WAY too much.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wendy, likewise. I don&#039;t mind doing so if, like Eileen says, it&#039;s my idea. I&#039;m happy to help with a small thing without billing. But I&#039;m not keen on hearing &#034;I need your help!&#034; and then hearing &#034;Oh, we have no budget left.&#034; That&#039;s taking advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devon, exactly. I may love what I do, but that&#039;s no reason to think I don&#039;t want to be paid for my work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy, I&#039;m with you on the time wasting! If I had every minute back that I wasted on Bejeweled Blitz, I could write a book. Not that I wouldn&#039;t just go right back to playing that obnoxiously addictive game....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eileen, I suspect your clients appreciate you for your own giving. That&#039;s a great combination, and a super suggestion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suzanne, you&#039;ve hit on it exactly. If the client is someone who is a pleasure to work with, you don&#039;t mind helping out once in a blue moon. If it&#039;s a client who&#039;s been a bear the entire time, why stick your hand back in that flame?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Congratulations, Jake! What good news! Even the tough interviews can pay off. :) And I love the &#034;slush fund&#034; idea. I&#039;m using that with my favorite clients next chance I get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, likewise. I don&#39;t mind doing so if, like Eileen says, it&#39;s my idea. I&#39;m happy to help with a small thing without billing. But I&#39;m not keen on hearing &quot;I need your help!&quot; and then hearing &quot;Oh, we have no budget left.&quot; That&#39;s taking advantage.</p>
<p>Devon, exactly. I may love what I do, but that&#39;s no reason to think I don&#39;t want to be paid for my work.</p>
<p>Cathy, I&#39;m with you on the time wasting! If I had every minute back that I wasted on Bejeweled Blitz, I could write a book. Not that I wouldn&#39;t just go right back to playing that obnoxiously addictive game&#8230;.</p>
<p>Eileen, I suspect your clients appreciate you for your own giving. That&#39;s a great combination, and a super suggestion.</p>
<p>Suzanne, you&#39;ve hit on it exactly. If the client is someone who is a pleasure to work with, you don&#39;t mind helping out once in a blue moon. If it&#39;s a client who&#39;s been a bear the entire time, why stick your hand back in that flame?</p>
<p>Congratulations, Jake! What good news! Even the tough interviews can pay off. 🙂 And I love the &quot;slush fund&quot; idea. I&#39;m using that with my favorite clients next chance I get.</p>
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		By: Cathy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like Eileen&#039;s idea of where the freebie is her idea. I approached this from the perspective of the client asking for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And a 15 minute slush fund is a good concept, too, Jake. BTW-congrats on the editor&#039;s kudos. Isn&#039;t it funny how that works out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Eileen&#39;s idea of where the freebie is her idea. I approached this from the perspective of the client asking for it.</p>
<p>And a 15 minute slush fund is a good concept, too, Jake. BTW-congrats on the editor&#39;s kudos. Isn&#39;t it funny how that works out?</p>
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		By: Jake P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Knock me over with a feather. My editor just emailed me with &#034;Nice work!&#034; about the aforementioned story. (I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t whine to her about what a pain in the tail it was, ha!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knock me over with a feather. My editor just emailed me with &quot;Nice work!&quot; about the aforementioned story. (I&#39;m glad I didn&#39;t whine to her about what a pain in the tail it was, ha!)</p>
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		By: Jake P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds familiar. I procrastinated most of the day on a story yesterday before finally putting it out of its misery. My first challenge was that the interviewee spoke with a REALLY heavy foreign accent, so it took twice as long as usual to transcribe. The second challenge was...he just wasn&#039;t that interesting. Nice enough guy, but 100% beancounter personality + mundane topic = hookless story. I did what I could.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the free stuff: I have sort of a mental, 15-minute slush fund for good clients. Like Suzanne, I have a design partner that will do small tweaks without charging, and I think that&#039;s a good model to follow on the word side, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds familiar. I procrastinated most of the day on a story yesterday before finally putting it out of its misery. My first challenge was that the interviewee spoke with a REALLY heavy foreign accent, so it took twice as long as usual to transcribe. The second challenge was&#8230;he just wasn&#39;t that interesting. Nice enough guy, but 100% beancounter personality + mundane topic = hookless story. I did what I could.</p>
<p>On the free stuff: I have sort of a mental, 15-minute slush fund for good clients. Like Suzanne, I have a design partner that will do small tweaks without charging, and I think that&#39;s a good model to follow on the word side, too.</p>
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