Comments on: Today’s Second Post: A Response to a DS Question

By: allena

allena — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:35:11 +0000

Not strong, just have an editor looking over my shoulder 🙂 , and I appreciate it too!

By: Lori

Lori — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:17:37 +0000

Angela Hoy's article - of course! I knew I'd seen specific reference to it beyond what a few folks had written privately. Thanks, Wendy.

Cathy, the irony is that Chris leveling this accusation is pretty much the same thing I was accused of. Chris has come to a conclusion without any facts.

Kathy, there's the thing. We sort of DO hand them the keys. If not direct advice, we give them the example of our own careers. And more importantly, we do so not because we HAVE to, but because we want to help. If they'd stop fussing long enough to read beyond one post, they'd not even make such statements.

Allena, I've seen some of the stuff you've gotten from this same crowd. You're a strong person not to react. :)

Devon, there's a lot of truth in what you say. The problem is motivation, and I think a lot of it is feeling defensive because of their own lack of direction. But them wasting time b$tching about it on all these threads doesn't get them any closer to the answer for their career inertia.

I know as a professional writer, I would not be happy being paid five or ten bucks for my hard work. I'm worth more than that.

By: Devon Ellington

Devon Ellington — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:11:23 +0000

It's never going to be resolved. People who write for DS get defensive because they know they're not good enough and motivated enough to land clients on their own and make a real living, so they settle for crap pay and then feel they have to defend it.

If they were good enough and motivated enough to earn a living wage at writing, they would be. It's as simple as that.

Don't waste your time and energy on them. Let them spin in their own low-paying graves.

They don't WANT to be educated, they don't WANT to get out of the rut.

By: allena

allena — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:15:48 +0000

oooh Lori, I'm not sure you should have wasted your fingers on this issue, cause I just don't see anyone changing their minds about mills. It sucks that someone said you lied, but wheeewww you should see some of hte ugly too-late-to-the-party comments I get at about.com, not worth your time nor mine. But keep up your Write This Not That– it's #1 A excellent info.

By: Wendy

Wendy — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:26:39 +0000

I believe it came directly from Hoy's article. If they want proof they can go to Hoy to get it.

Did you say they were going to provide proof that you were "making sh*t up" ?

All in all, I don't think the issue would ever be resolved, but it's good you're making the effort. A professional journalist at work! Look out!

By: Irreverent Freelancer

Irreverent Freelancer — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:58:54 +0000

Please, yet another entitlement poster. Why does (almost) everyone who resorts to Demand Studios to survive expect to be handed the key to well-paying clients and assignments on a golden platter? Readers of my blog know how I respond to such posters, and as Jake alluded to, my response is a LOT less patient than yours. To steal Chris's word, quite frankly, I'm sick of that sh$!.

By: Cathy

Cathy — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:29:12 +0000

I'm with Jake. Calling you out is one thing, but basically calling you a liar is beyond disagreement.

By: Lori

Lori — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:58:13 +0000

LOL Hadn't even realized what was on the iPod. I think you're right, Jake. I think the iPod is "in tune" with the universe.

Thanks for the support, friend.

By: Jake P

Jake P — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:22:39 +0000

LW, you're obviously more patient than I am. There's a big, big difference between disagreeing with an opinion and being flat-out rude. Seems to me that Chris obliterated that line, and massively undermined his/her argument in the process.

And I'm snickering at your iPod, which is clearly a sentient being. :)

And for the record, you couldn't, um, pay me enough to work for DS.