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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anne, LOL! Yes, a four-footed one. And it&#039;s the first time ever I&#039;ve seen one at the beach. In the back yard, yes. Beach? Never.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stacy, that&#039;s a super idea! Yes, I think that&#039;s a good way to set a precedent. Thanks for the idea!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jenn, you&#039;ll love it. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi Allena! Good seeing you here. I have a similar minimum - a three-hour minimum for small projects. The exceptions - blog posts and press releases. But you&#039;re right. Anything under $150 costs us more to touch the keyboard than to move on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, LOL! Yes, a four-footed one. And it&#39;s the first time ever I&#39;ve seen one at the beach. In the back yard, yes. Beach? Never.</p>
<p>Stacy, that&#39;s a super idea! Yes, I think that&#39;s a good way to set a precedent. Thanks for the idea!</p>
<p>Jenn, you&#39;ll love it. 🙂</p>
<p>Hi Allena! Good seeing you here. I have a similar minimum &#8211; a three-hour minimum for small projects. The exceptions &#8211; blog posts and press releases. But you&#39;re right. Anything under $150 costs us more to touch the keyboard than to move on.</p>
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		By: allena		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, mine are listed. I figure then that anyone who actually clicks through to the Contact Me part- or calls me- is serious. I also have a minimum 150$ for any project that I stick to. Even if it&#039;s a 2 page something, I won&#039;t even bother for less than 150$.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, mine are listed. I figure then that anyone who actually clicks through to the Contact Me part- or calls me- is serious. I also have a minimum 150$ for any project that I stick to. Even if it&#39;s a 2 page something, I won&#39;t even bother for less than 150$.</p>
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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori - I honestly don&#039;t remember, but feel free to remind me at the next one. Always love a good horror story. ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stacy - Putting a bare minimum is another good option for cutting down on the tightwads. I&#039;ve already decided the next time I decide to open things up to a new client I&#039;ll only be taking on blogging projects, and there will be a minimum order required (probably 10 posts per month) -- another way to cut out those with limited budgets where you&#039;ll have to put in a lot of time getting to know the market and company only to do minimal work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori &#8211; I honestly don&#39;t remember, but feel free to remind me at the next one. Always love a good horror story. 😉</p>
<p>Stacy &#8211; Putting a bare minimum is another good option for cutting down on the tightwads. I&#39;ve already decided the next time I decide to open things up to a new client I&#39;ll only be taking on blogging projects, and there will be a minimum order required (probably 10 posts per month) &#8212; another way to cut out those with limited budgets where you&#39;ll have to put in a lot of time getting to know the market and company only to do minimal work.</p>
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		By: Stacy Ranta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacy Ranta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear you&#039;re feeling better, and you had a nice time at the beach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I&#039;m thinking of doing on my next web page update is posting a minimum amount for a project on my FAQ page. Something like:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My minimum to begin any project is $300.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think that will scare away the cheapo tire kickers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you&#39;re feeling better, and you had a nice time at the beach.</p>
<p>What I&#39;m thinking of doing on my next web page update is posting a minimum amount for a project on my FAQ page. Something like:</p>
<p>My minimum to begin any project is $300.</p>
<p>Think that will scare away the cheapo tire kickers?</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Foxes at the beach... I mean 4 footed one? Must be an east coast thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both on my site and when I&#039;m talking to a client I say something like &#034;I base my charges on $125 an hour, but I like to work out a flat fee - that way you don&#039;t get billed for a mistake I made and I don&#039;t get shorted for the inspiration I have in the shower.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not too concerned about what you or other writers charge... we all have to find what works for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;btw, posting what I charge only lessens, but does not eliminate those who hope I&#039;ll write for free or for way less than I say I will... lots of optimists out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So glad you&#039;re feeling better my dear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foxes at the beach&#8230; I mean 4 footed one? Must be an east coast thing.</p>
<p>Both on my site and when I&#39;m talking to a client I say something like &quot;I base my charges on $125 an hour, but I like to work out a flat fee &#8211; that way you don&#39;t get billed for a mistake I made and I don&#39;t get shorted for the inspiration I have in the shower.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not too concerned about what you or other writers charge&#8230; we all have to find what works for us.</p>
<p>btw, posting what I charge only lessens, but does not eliminate those who hope I&#39;ll write for free or for way less than I say I will&#8230; lots of optimists out there.</p>
<p>So glad you&#39;re feeling better my dear.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was going to leave that typo up, Georganna, but I was getting hives looking at it. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to leave that typo up, Georganna, but I was getting hives looking at it. 🙂</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ack! A typo! Georganna, if you weren&#039;t around, I&#039;d be lost in my own excessive verbiage. :) And if I weren&#039;t sitting here on an Alavert high, I&#039;d be editing. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yep, $100/hr for writing. That doesn&#039;t include magazine articles, obviously. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eileen, good seeing you again! Feeling pretty decent beyond too dizzy after taking an allergy pill, but that&#039;s something else entirely, isn&#039;t it? :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOVE the idea of a price range because it establishes a base price that&#039;s within reason.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy, great reminder. Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jenn, did I mention the hour counter when we had lunch? I&#039;ll  fill you in later, but it&#039;s happened a few times. That&#039;s why your suggestion would work beautifully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jake, you&#039;ve inspired me to put a rate chart together. Hey, if you&#039;re willing to leap into that area, so am I. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jill, exactly the reasons I&#039;ve not posted rates, too. The only way around it I can see is to poll other writers for their price ranges on particular projects. Gives a better idea of what you should be charging maybe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kathy, that&#039;s a super idea. I normally get to the price first, but sometimes it&#039;s tough, especially when it takes two or three emails to get the project fleshed out. But yes, it&#039;s a great idea to have standard price ranges handy. Great idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! A typo! Georganna, if you weren&#39;t around, I&#39;d be lost in my own excessive verbiage. 🙂 And if I weren&#39;t sitting here on an Alavert high, I&#39;d be editing. 🙂</p>
<p>Yep, $100/hr for writing. That doesn&#39;t include magazine articles, obviously. </p>
<p>Eileen, good seeing you again! Feeling pretty decent beyond too dizzy after taking an allergy pill, but that&#39;s something else entirely, isn&#39;t it? 🙂</p>
<p>LOVE the idea of a price range because it establishes a base price that&#39;s within reason.</p>
<p>Cathy, great reminder. Thank you!</p>
<p>Jenn, did I mention the hour counter when we had lunch? I&#39;ll  fill you in later, but it&#39;s happened a few times. That&#39;s why your suggestion would work beautifully.</p>
<p>Jake, you&#39;ve inspired me to put a rate chart together. Hey, if you&#39;re willing to leap into that area, so am I. 🙂</p>
<p>Jill, exactly the reasons I&#39;ve not posted rates, too. The only way around it I can see is to poll other writers for their price ranges on particular projects. Gives a better idea of what you should be charging maybe.</p>
<p>Kathy, that&#39;s a super idea. I normally get to the price first, but sometimes it&#39;s tough, especially when it takes two or three emails to get the project fleshed out. But yes, it&#39;s a great idea to have standard price ranges handy. Great idea.</p>
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		By: Georganna Hancock M.S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georganna Hancock M.S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to see you&#039;re back -- and your front. Just caught your tweet. On the items you listed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It weeds out the client pack. - Agreed and I&#039;m sick of wasting time on communications that go nowhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It establishes a market value. -- True, but for editors, the value has a broad spectrum. Rates are all over the place!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is positions you as a serious professional. -- True, but that sentence needs a serious editing. Or a serious editor. I&#039;m available!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I usually bill by the hour, I seldom tell clients how many hours a job actually took.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I had rates posted, few if any jobs resulted.  Saying nothing brings a deluge of mostly cheapskates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps the tactic of posting a range of rates would weed out all those who want &#034;freebies&#034; (yes! I am still getting those!) and attract what I call potential clients who are &#034;serious writers.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Really, you&#039;re writing for $100 an hour? I&#039;d better boost my rates again, cause editing is sooo much more difficult.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your turn -- find all my typos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see you&#39;re back &#8212; and your front. Just caught your tweet. On the items you listed:</p>
<p>It weeds out the client pack. &#8211; Agreed and I&#39;m sick of wasting time on communications that go nowhere.</p>
<p>It establishes a market value. &#8212; True, but for editors, the value has a broad spectrum. Rates are all over the place!</p>
<p>It is positions you as a serious professional. &#8212; True, but that sentence needs a serious editing. Or a serious editor. I&#39;m available!</p>
<p>Although I usually bill by the hour, I seldom tell clients how many hours a job actually took.</p>
<p>When I had rates posted, few if any jobs resulted.  Saying nothing brings a deluge of mostly cheapskates.</p>
<p>Perhaps the tactic of posting a range of rates would weed out all those who want &quot;freebies&quot; (yes! I am still getting those!) and attract what I call potential clients who are &quot;serious writers.&quot;</p>
<p>Really, you&#39;re writing for $100 an hour? I&#39;d better boost my rates again, cause editing is sooo much more difficult.</p>
<p>Your turn &#8212; find all my typos.</p>
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		By: Irreverent Freelancer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irreverent Freelancer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice to see you back in action, Lori! I don&#039;t post my rates on my website because my rates are all over the place for various types of projects. However, I&#039;ve started including them in job application emails. I&#039;ve wasted WAY too many phone hours discussing projects only to find out that the client isn&#039;t paying anywhere near what I charge. It still happens because I can&#039;t quote rates on some types of assignments until I learn more about them, but at least it&#039;s cut down on the unsavory percentage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see you back in action, Lori! I don&#39;t post my rates on my website because my rates are all over the place for various types of projects. However, I&#39;ve started including them in job application emails. I&#39;ve wasted WAY too many phone hours discussing projects only to find out that the client isn&#39;t paying anywhere near what I charge. It still happens because I can&#39;t quote rates on some types of assignments until I learn more about them, but at least it&#39;s cut down on the unsavory percentage.</p>
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		By: Jill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m revising my web site right now, but I don&#039;t plan to post rates, for three reasons. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, I don&#039;t want to lowball myself. New clients may pay more than what I consider my going rate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, the projects I do vary wildly in their level of difficulty (I&#039;m a book editor and proofreader). Quoting a per-page rate or even a ballpark project fee before I&#039;ve seen the manuscript or a sample of it would be foolish.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I don&#039;t want to scare off new clients who may be willing to pay more once I&#039;ve proven myself. One client paid me a decent per-page rate for proofreading, then upped it after I&#039;d been working for the client for some time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m revising my web site right now, but I don&#39;t plan to post rates, for three reasons. </p>
<p>First, I don&#39;t want to lowball myself. New clients may pay more than what I consider my going rate. </p>
<p>Second, the projects I do vary wildly in their level of difficulty (I&#39;m a book editor and proofreader). Quoting a per-page rate or even a ballpark project fee before I&#39;ve seen the manuscript or a sample of it would be foolish.</p>
<p>Finally, I don&#39;t want to scare off new clients who may be willing to pay more once I&#39;ve proven myself. One client paid me a decent per-page rate for proofreading, then upped it after I&#39;d been working for the client for some time.</p>
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