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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ashley, his verbal slip was very telling - I bet they were time-consuming!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, I don&#039;t know how many times I have to remind people that I write, not distribute. Same goes for editing books. If I&#039;m editing your book, I&#039;m fixing the copy. I&#039;m not finding a publisher, agent, or waiting until that time to get paid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, his verbal slip was very telling &#8211; I bet they were time-consuming!</p>
<p>Yes, I don&#39;t know how many times I have to remind people that I write, not distribute. Same goes for editing books. If I&#39;m editing your book, I&#39;m fixing the copy. I&#39;m not finding a publisher, agent, or waiting until that time to get paid.</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anytime someone acts like they&#039;re doing you a huge favor - run in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m with Devon on the press releases thing. Several years ago, after quoting a rate of $250/page, a potential client assumed that included compiling a mailing list, printing out hard copies, and mailing (not e-mailing) them out. Postage, too. Um, dude, that amount wouldn&#039;t cover the paper, ink and postage let alone my expertise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime someone acts like they&#39;re doing you a huge favor &#8211; run in the opposite direction.</p>
<p>I&#39;m with Devon on the press releases thing. Several years ago, after quoting a rate of $250/page, a potential client assumed that included compiling a mailing list, printing out hard copies, and mailing (not e-mailing) them out. Postage, too. Um, dude, that amount wouldn&#39;t cover the paper, ink and postage let alone my expertise.</p>
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		By: Ashley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone once told me that he would &#034;put me on the map&#034; if I did 30 articles for free. Articles that he stated were &#034;time-consuming.&#034; I nearly fell out of my chair laughing :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you hit on something when you mention in the comments about spending money on flashy websites and business cards -- Those are things that they can&#039;t negotiate price. I think many people feel that a writer&#039;s price is more flexible than the price of a tangible product.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone once told me that he would &quot;put me on the map&quot; if I did 30 articles for free. Articles that he stated were &quot;time-consuming.&quot; I nearly fell out of my chair laughing 🙂</p>
<p>I think you hit on something when you mention in the comments about spending money on flashy websites and business cards &#8212; Those are things that they can&#39;t negotiate price. I think many people feel that a writer&#39;s price is more flexible than the price of a tangible product.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cathy, I had that same thing happen. I finished the large project, then the email came from her: &#034;If you were to put a caption on this photo, what do you think it would be?&#034; Did she really think I was that stupid?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wendy, I&#039;ve not been bullied yet. I figure no one has that much clout that the entire WORLD would stop hiring us! But it&#039;s nice that these bullies have such low opinions of themselves, huh? LOL&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Diane, that&#039;s when I say &#034;Fine. You get what you pay for.&#034; I never look back at those. Crazies!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devon, you&#039;ve certainly hit on plenty I&#039;ve come across, too! I don&#039;t do startups because they&#039;re so interested in wasting money on Flash websites and uber-cool business cards that they fail to have enough to pay their contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good for you, Carole! I&#039;d have tossed that one back myself. Ridiculous parameters - there&#039;s no way any writer can do a fantastic job in two hours. You have to have enough time to visualize and build the ideas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, I had that same thing happen. I finished the large project, then the email came from her: &quot;If you were to put a caption on this photo, what do you think it would be?&quot; Did she really think I was that stupid?</p>
<p>Wendy, I&#39;ve not been bullied yet. I figure no one has that much clout that the entire WORLD would stop hiring us! But it&#39;s nice that these bullies have such low opinions of themselves, huh? LOL</p>
<p>Diane, that&#39;s when I say &quot;Fine. You get what you pay for.&quot; I never look back at those. Crazies!</p>
<p>Devon, you&#39;ve certainly hit on plenty I&#39;ve come across, too! I don&#39;t do startups because they&#39;re so interested in wasting money on Flash websites and uber-cool business cards that they fail to have enough to pay their contractors.</p>
<p>Good for you, Carole! I&#39;d have tossed that one back myself. Ridiculous parameters &#8211; there&#39;s no way any writer can do a fantastic job in two hours. You have to have enough time to visualize and build the ideas.</p>
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		By: Cathy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ones that contracted with you for an article, then send you their ads, contracts with an online magazine and other writing for you to take a &#034;quick look&#034; at and give your opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Funny, when I quoted a consulting fee, they all went away...hmmm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ones that contracted with you for an article, then send you their ads, contracts with an online magazine and other writing for you to take a &quot;quick look&quot; at and give your opinion.</p>
<p>Funny, when I quoted a consulting fee, they all went away&#8230;hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We must not forget the bullies. The ones who claim they have business contacts that they can refer to you if you&#039;re nice to them. If not, then they can make things difficult for you. At this point, I start imagining some kind of Al Capone type character coming in to &#034;negotiate&#034; a deal with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must not forget the bullies. The ones who claim they have business contacts that they can refer to you if you&#39;re nice to them. If not, then they can make things difficult for you. At this point, I start imagining some kind of Al Capone type character coming in to &quot;negotiate&quot; a deal with me.</p>
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		By: Diane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It has to be the oft quoted one of mine: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;Why should I pay your extortionate rates when I have hundreds of enthusiastic amateurs willing to do it for free?&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nuff said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to be the oft quoted one of mine: </p>
<p>&quot;Why should I pay your extortionate rates when I have hundreds of enthusiastic amateurs willing to do it for free?&quot;</p>
<p>Nuff said.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;I can&#039;t afford that.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;If you were a professional, you&#039;d know how to budget our time to fit into our budget.&#034;  (the typical do a 10 hour project in 2 hours thing).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ones who want me to use MY contacts to market THEIR products, instead of me just doing the writing job for which I was hired.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People who hire you to write a press release and then expect you to submit it.  No, hon.  I WRITE it.  That&#039;s all I do.  Getting it out there is YOUR job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;We&#039;re starting up, but when we get on our feet . . .&#034;&lt;br /&gt;If I can&#039;t pass it on to the landlord, the plumber, etc., you can&#039;t pull it on me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;It&#039;ll be really good for you to get the exposure.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;Uh, no, actually, it will be rally good to be PAID for my work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;Anyone could write this.&#034;  Go ahead then. Write it yourself, save the money, and see where it gets you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I can&#39;t afford that.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;If you were a professional, you&#39;d know how to budget our time to fit into our budget.&quot;  (the typical do a 10 hour project in 2 hours thing).</p>
<p>The ones who want me to use MY contacts to market THEIR products, instead of me just doing the writing job for which I was hired.</p>
<p>People who hire you to write a press release and then expect you to submit it.  No, hon.  I WRITE it.  That&#39;s all I do.  Getting it out there is YOUR job.</p>
<p>&quot;We&#39;re starting up, but when we get on our feet . . .&quot;<br />If I can&#39;t pass it on to the landlord, the plumber, etc., you can&#39;t pull it on me.</p>
<p>&quot;It&#39;ll be really good for you to get the exposure.&quot;<br />Uh, no, actually, it will be rally good to be PAID for my work.</p>
<p>&quot;Anyone could write this.&quot;  Go ahead then. Write it yourself, save the money, and see where it gets you.</p>
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		By: Carole		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m often puzzled and aghast by requests to complete a 10-hour project in 2 hours or less. I don&#039;t understand why some think that they can underpay or not pay for completed work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I once had a client say that s/he could complete a specific project (new web site content of a medical nature)in less than an hour and a half and expected me to do the same. I told this person to go ahead and do it then because I could not in good conscience do an adequate job in that timeframe. S/he seemed surprised that I tossed it back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m often puzzled and aghast by requests to complete a 10-hour project in 2 hours or less. I don&#39;t understand why some think that they can underpay or not pay for completed work.</p>
<p>I once had a client say that s/he could complete a specific project (new web site content of a medical nature)in less than an hour and a half and expected me to do the same. I told this person to go ahead and do it then because I could not in good conscience do an adequate job in that timeframe. S/he seemed surprised that I tossed it back.</p>
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