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		By: Jenn Mattern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paula -- At least in the case of shorter pieces, you&#039;re still being paid a (hopefully) fair rate for what you&#039;re providing. You&#039;re doing less. But you&#039;re not being paid less for the work you actually do. And if projects are shorter, that just leaves more time to bring in more clients paying an equivalent per-word rate, diversifying and protecting yourself even more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula &#8212; At least in the case of shorter pieces, you&#39;re still being paid a (hopefully) fair rate for what you&#39;re providing. You&#39;re doing less. But you&#39;re not being paid less for the work you actually do. And if projects are shorter, that just leaves more time to bring in more clients paying an equivalent per-word rate, diversifying and protecting yourself even more.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Devon and Jenn, I&#039;m inclined to do the same. Rare is the new client who gets a discount. In my own experience, that never ends well because I get the &#034;I&#039;ll raise the rates after three months&#034; shpiel, which means never. In this other writer&#039;s case, it was more of &#034;I&#039;ll pay you your rate first, then my rate second.&#034; I&#039;m more comfortable with that, depending on what the reduced rate is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anne, exactly. If you&#039;re feeling able and willing, maybe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cathy, yes. I&#039;m all about reducing if there&#039;s much more work on &lt;b&gt;contract&lt;/b&gt;. If it&#039;s a promise of more work later, they have to have those projects defined and in a contract I&#039;ve agreed to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ashley, you did the right thing. When they start chasing pennies, the aggravation factor has just jumped exponentially. I had a client (who still thinks I&#039;m working with them) who actually wanted a complete article rewrite with three new interviews - in two hours. Needless to say the end product was not what was expected. And you bet I told the client why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yo, that&#039;s a great idea. If it&#039;s possible, it&#039;s a super compromise. Not always possible, obviously, but what a great solution!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, great question. What do you prefer? If it were me, I&#039;d appreciate the lower word count - I think I&#039;d resent it less, at least. It&#039;s a message that they value you enough to pay a competitive rate, but that their budget sucks. But the first one you mentioned? I&#039;d be gone. I had a company do that to me, but they finessed the rate cut by promising lower levels of writer input required, which never happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Becky, I&#039;m glad the other company is working out! I hear you on the time constraints. I think that factors into decisions, too. If the money is a little lower (at your level of acceptance) and the time fits, then go for it. If things don&#039;t feel right, trust that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mridu, I&#039;d have walked away, too. That&#039;s crazy! Or maybe go back and apply Yo&#039;s thinking - &#034;I can give you a lower word count for that rate&#034;.... Yes? No?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devon and Jenn, I&#39;m inclined to do the same. Rare is the new client who gets a discount. In my own experience, that never ends well because I get the &quot;I&#39;ll raise the rates after three months&quot; shpiel, which means never. In this other writer&#39;s case, it was more of &quot;I&#39;ll pay you your rate first, then my rate second.&quot; I&#39;m more comfortable with that, depending on what the reduced rate is.</p>
<p>Anne, exactly. If you&#39;re feeling able and willing, maybe.</p>
<p>Cathy, yes. I&#39;m all about reducing if there&#39;s much more work on <b>contract</b>. If it&#39;s a promise of more work later, they have to have those projects defined and in a contract I&#39;ve agreed to.</p>
<p>Ashley, you did the right thing. When they start chasing pennies, the aggravation factor has just jumped exponentially. I had a client (who still thinks I&#39;m working with them) who actually wanted a complete article rewrite with three new interviews &#8211; in two hours. Needless to say the end product was not what was expected. And you bet I told the client why.</p>
<p>Yo, that&#39;s a great idea. If it&#39;s possible, it&#39;s a super compromise. Not always possible, obviously, but what a great solution!</p>
<p>Paula, great question. What do you prefer? If it were me, I&#39;d appreciate the lower word count &#8211; I think I&#39;d resent it less, at least. It&#39;s a message that they value you enough to pay a competitive rate, but that their budget sucks. But the first one you mentioned? I&#39;d be gone. I had a company do that to me, but they finessed the rate cut by promising lower levels of writer input required, which never happened.</p>
<p>Becky, I&#39;m glad the other company is working out! I hear you on the time constraints. I think that factors into decisions, too. If the money is a little lower (at your level of acceptance) and the time fits, then go for it. If things don&#39;t feel right, trust that.</p>
<p>Mridu, I&#39;d have walked away, too. That&#39;s crazy! Or maybe go back and apply Yo&#39;s thinking &#8211; &quot;I can give you a lower word count for that rate&quot;&#8230;. Yes? No?</p>
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		By: Mridu Khullar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just walked away from an editor whose accounts department has reduced their rate from $2,500 to $1,500 for a 1,000 word piece. Nothing to do with the editor (who is wonderful), but it just doesn&#039;t make sense for me to accept a pay cut, particularly when the last piece I wrote for them won an award! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve already replaced that income from other sources quite easily. And the editor has promised to get in touch as soon as rates go up again. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it really does come down to personal situations. A few years ago, I may not have walked away from this, but at this stage of my career, I can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just walked away from an editor whose accounts department has reduced their rate from $2,500 to $1,500 for a 1,000 word piece. Nothing to do with the editor (who is wonderful), but it just doesn&#39;t make sense for me to accept a pay cut, particularly when the last piece I wrote for them won an award! </p>
<p>I&#39;ve already replaced that income from other sources quite easily. And the editor has promised to get in touch as soon as rates go up again. </p>
<p>I think it really does come down to personal situations. A few years ago, I may not have walked away from this, but at this stage of my career, I can.</p>
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		By: becky @ misspriss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[becky @ misspriss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Argh. Ate my comment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with Anne - sometimes it&#039;s just how poor you feel at the time! ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My problem has been timing recently. I only have about 3 months open on my schedule and longer-term projects are what I&#039;m finding right now. Being a working mom is, well, working against me right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I did recently go back to a client who&#039;d cut their rates, asked how they were doing, and found their rates were back up again. Happily working with them again. Yay!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh. Ate my comment.</p>
<p>I agree with Anne &#8211; sometimes it&#39;s just how poor you feel at the time! 😉</p>
<p>My problem has been timing recently. I only have about 3 months open on my schedule and longer-term projects are what I&#39;m finding right now. Being a working mom is, well, working against me right now.</p>
<p>But I did recently go back to a client who&#39;d cut their rates, asked how they were doing, and found their rates were back up again. Happily working with them again. Yay!</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One publication I&#039;ve written for for several years finally raised their rates. But six months later the economy tanked, they lost ad revenue, and cut the rates back to where they had been before. Because the cuts were across the board, and not just me, I went along with it. They said it was temporary, but 16 months later the rates have yet to go back up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other publications have been trimming their freelance budgets by cutting assigned lengths. So on paper I&#039;m still doing the same amount (or more) of pieces for them each year, but the paychecks are much smaller. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So which is worse: a place that cuts per word rates but keeps assigned lengths as is? Or a place that keeps a good per-word rate but assigns smaller and smaller articles? (Seriously, I&#039;m coining the term &#034;articlettes&#034; to describe these glorified blurbs.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One publication I&#39;ve written for for several years finally raised their rates. But six months later the economy tanked, they lost ad revenue, and cut the rates back to where they had been before. Because the cuts were across the board, and not just me, I went along with it. They said it was temporary, but 16 months later the rates have yet to go back up.</p>
<p>Other publications have been trimming their freelance budgets by cutting assigned lengths. So on paper I&#39;m still doing the same amount (or more) of pieces for them each year, but the paychecks are much smaller. </p>
<p>So which is worse: a place that cuts per word rates but keeps assigned lengths as is? Or a place that keeps a good per-word rate but assigns smaller and smaller articles? (Seriously, I&#39;m coining the term &quot;articlettes&quot; to describe these glorified blurbs.)</p>
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		By: Valerie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll do a volume discount. That is it. If a client can&#039;t pay or doesn&#039;t want to pay, I either propose new parameters we can both live with, or walk away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do pro bono projects for struggling micro-charities who couldn&#039;t afford me in a million years, but that&#039;s by choice and for a good cause. When real businesses start kvetching about funds being tight and oh please, could I drop my fee just a little, I&#039;m gone. For all of the reasons listed above, but also - if they don&#039;t respect my rates, they&#039;re not going to respect me in other areas and likely the entire relationship will be one big struggle. Who needs it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ll do a volume discount. That is it. If a client can&#39;t pay or doesn&#39;t want to pay, I either propose new parameters we can both live with, or walk away.</p>
<p>I do pro bono projects for struggling micro-charities who couldn&#39;t afford me in a million years, but that&#39;s by choice and for a good cause. When real businesses start kvetching about funds being tight and oh please, could I drop my fee just a little, I&#39;m gone. For all of the reasons listed above, but also &#8211; if they don&#39;t respect my rates, they&#39;re not going to respect me in other areas and likely the entire relationship will be one big struggle. Who needs it?</p>
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		By: Yo Prinzel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yo Prinzel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no problem working within any budget as long as I can reduce the scope enough to make what I want to make. A new client recently wanted 5/300 word blog posts each week but couldn&#039;t afford my price. He made the smart move to say my price was totally worth it, but that they just couldn&#039;t afford it (some douchebags get all up-in-arms over my price--like that&#039;s going to make me want to play ball with them). I adjusted the project so that we still have 5 posts a day but some of them are 100 word tips instead of 300 word blog posts. Now the job is less expensive AND less demanding on me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem working within any budget as long as I can reduce the scope enough to make what I want to make. A new client recently wanted 5/300 word blog posts each week but couldn&#39;t afford my price. He made the smart move to say my price was totally worth it, but that they just couldn&#39;t afford it (some douchebags get all up-in-arms over my price&#8211;like that&#39;s going to make me want to play ball with them). I adjusted the project so that we still have 5 posts a day but some of them are 100 word tips instead of 300 word blog posts. Now the job is less expensive AND less demanding on me.</p>
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		By: Ashley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think I mentioned this to you before, Lori, but I was getting nickeled and dimed to death by one potential client, and I just had to call the whole thing off. He was worried about pennies. Literally -- pennies! It was very clear he didn&#039;t value me, and I was happy to let him go. I haven&#039;t looked back, but it DID free me up to look for better paying work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I mentioned this to you before, Lori, but I was getting nickeled and dimed to death by one potential client, and I just had to call the whole thing off. He was worried about pennies. Literally &#8212; pennies! It was very clear he didn&#39;t value me, and I was happy to let him go. I haven&#39;t looked back, but it DID free me up to look for better paying work.</p>
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		By: Cathy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do the same as Jenn. I&#039;ll look to reduce the scope for a reduced price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I am reducing because of something like multiple projects (white paper+case study+editing existing case studies), I&#039;ll note my usual fee and show the discount.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The longer I have done this, the easier it is to say no to a new client who can&#039;t pay my fees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do the same as Jenn. I&#39;ll look to reduce the scope for a reduced price.</p>
<p>If I am reducing because of something like multiple projects (white paper+case study+editing existing case studies), I&#39;ll note my usual fee and show the discount.</p>
<p>The longer I have done this, the easier it is to say no to a new client who can&#39;t pay my fees.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like Devon and Jenn,for me it depends. And I have to admit it sometimes depends on how rich or not rich I&#039;m feeling at the moment - a great reason to have savings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve walked away from far more]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Devon and Jenn,for me it depends. And I have to admit it sometimes depends on how rich or not rich I&#39;m feeling at the moment &#8211; a great reason to have savings. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve walked away from far more</p>
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