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		By: Natalia M. Sylvester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia M. Sylvester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Lori, that&#039;s a great idea, thanks! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow, a whole year? That must have been so frustrating. I think 2-3 months for smaller projects is reasonable (and this project is reaching that point!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lori, that&#39;s a great idea, thanks! </p>
<p>Wow, a whole year? That must have been so frustrating. I think 2-3 months for smaller projects is reasonable (and this project is reaching that point!).</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Natalia, I know how to fix it! Put a due date on that final amount. I had that once, too. The project went on for a year - a YEAR. I did manage to talk the client into paying me a few months before it ended (he was very nice and a great client all the way around), but I learned to put a due date because of that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Depending on the project, I usually put 6 months out for a book and 2-3 months out for a smaller project.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalia, I know how to fix it! Put a due date on that final amount. I had that once, too. The project went on for a year &#8211; a YEAR. I did manage to talk the client into paying me a few months before it ended (he was very nice and a great client all the way around), but I learned to put a due date because of that.</p>
<p>Depending on the project, I usually put 6 months out for a book and 2-3 months out for a smaller project.</p>
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		By: Anne Wayman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Wayman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And don&#039;t write with a sinus headache... go to bed! No, I&#039;m not your mother, but...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#39;t write with a sinus headache&#8230; go to bed! No, I&#39;m not your mother, but&#8230;</p>
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		By: Natalia M. Sylvester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia M. Sylvester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a great post, Lori. There&#039;s such great feedback here I&#039;d love to ask for everyone&#039;s opinion on my client problem, if you don&#039;t mind! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I usually bill half up front, half upon project completion. A few months ago I signed with a new client. They sent the deposit, no problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I include 2 revisions in my fees, so after I sent in the first draft, the client said it&#039;s great but they just have a few changes they want to request. That was about two months ago. I&#039;ve called and emailed and each time they say they&#039;ll get back to me within a few days with requests for revisions, and that they&#039;re sorry it&#039;s taken so long.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point, I&#039;d like to wrap up the project and invoice for the second half of the payment because I&#039;d like to get paid (crazy, right?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve since changed my payment policy to be half up front, half upon delivery of initial drafts, so the client can take their time with revision requests and I&#039;ll still get paid. But I don&#039;t know how else to speed this process along.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone ever had a similar problem? Any suggestions for how to handle it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great post, Lori. There&#39;s such great feedback here I&#39;d love to ask for everyone&#39;s opinion on my client problem, if you don&#39;t mind! </p>
<p>I usually bill half up front, half upon project completion. A few months ago I signed with a new client. They sent the deposit, no problem.</p>
<p>I include 2 revisions in my fees, so after I sent in the first draft, the client said it&#39;s great but they just have a few changes they want to request. That was about two months ago. I&#39;ve called and emailed and each time they say they&#39;ll get back to me within a few days with requests for revisions, and that they&#39;re sorry it&#39;s taken so long.</p>
<p>At this point, I&#39;d like to wrap up the project and invoice for the second half of the payment because I&#39;d like to get paid (crazy, right?).</p>
<p>I&#39;ve since changed my payment policy to be half up front, half upon delivery of initial drafts, so the client can take their time with revision requests and I&#39;ll still get paid. But I don&#39;t know how else to speed this process along.</p>
<p>Anyone ever had a similar problem? Any suggestions for how to handle it?</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2010/07/mixed-messages.html#comment-5877</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most of the time, when I&#039;m done, I&#039;m done.  Clean, swift break, cauterize the wound, move on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes they beg for me to come back.  The contract terms are much harsher and the price is higher.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there&#039;s no kill fee clause, there&#039;s a clause stating that the work is paid, whatever they decide to do or not do with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the time, when I&#39;m done, I&#39;m done.  Clean, swift break, cauterize the wound, move on.</p>
<p>Sometimes they beg for me to come back.  The contract terms are much harsher and the price is higher.  </p>
<p>If there&#39;s no kill fee clause, there&#39;s a clause stating that the work is paid, whatever they decide to do or not do with it.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2010/07/mixed-messages.html#comment-5875</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep, it&#039;s official - Blogger hates me. My post was eaten!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eileen, great post! It&#039;s like paint colors, isn&#039;t it? You can&#039;t order all of them mixed just to see if you like them - you have to buy them first.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wendy, that&#039;s absurd! So you do the work, they don&#039;t pay, then they take YOUR book elsewhere? Glad they finally saw it your way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#39;s official &#8211; Blogger hates me. My post was eaten!</p>
<p>Eileen, great post! It&#39;s like paint colors, isn&#39;t it? You can&#39;t order all of them mixed just to see if you like them &#8211; you have to buy them first.</p>
<p>Wendy, that&#39;s absurd! So you do the work, they don&#39;t pay, then they take YOUR book elsewhere? Glad they finally saw it your way.</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That sparked the worst battle I ever had to face in my fist year or so as a Freelancer. An eBook written to specifications was rejected by the client, who claimed they no longer had need of it. They wanted to do something different. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They asked if I would rework it using their &#034;new vision&#034;, but said they didn&#039;t want to pay extra for it. I declined and asked for payment. They didn&#039;t want to pay. After numerous emails back and forth, they inadvertently told me  that they sent the eBook to someone else to be reworked. I explained that the rights to the eBook still belonged to me, and that they couldn&#039;t rework it, unless they paid for it. It took some time, but I did finally get payment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That headache is what sparked me to start using a contract and to ask for partial payment before project started. The business relationship with that client ended as soon as payment was received.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sparked the worst battle I ever had to face in my fist year or so as a Freelancer. An eBook written to specifications was rejected by the client, who claimed they no longer had need of it. They wanted to do something different. </p>
<p>They asked if I would rework it using their &quot;new vision&quot;, but said they didn&#39;t want to pay extra for it. I declined and asked for payment. They didn&#39;t want to pay. After numerous emails back and forth, they inadvertently told me  that they sent the eBook to someone else to be reworked. I explained that the rights to the eBook still belonged to me, and that they couldn&#39;t rework it, unless they paid for it. It took some time, but I did finally get payment.</p>
<p>That headache is what sparked me to start using a contract and to ask for partial payment before project started. The business relationship with that client ended as soon as payment was received.</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love your analogy, Eileen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your analogy, Eileen.</p>
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		By: Eileen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a client try and pull that one me one time, but when I kept my cool and used an analogy to explain my position, they &#034;got it.&#034; I explained that if they ordered custom cabinetry for their kitchen, and then changed their mind once it was already made, they still owe the money. Sure, the cabinet maker might be able to unload it, but it would probably take substantial effort and a huge discount to move it out of the warehouse. That custom cabinetry won&#039;t fit just any kitchen, much like an article written for one publication won&#039;t suit just any other pub.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a client try and pull that one me one time, but when I kept my cool and used an analogy to explain my position, they &quot;got it.&quot; I explained that if they ordered custom cabinetry for their kitchen, and then changed their mind once it was already made, they still owe the money. Sure, the cabinet maker might be able to unload it, but it would probably take substantial effort and a huge discount to move it out of the warehouse. That custom cabinetry won&#39;t fit just any kitchen, much like an article written for one publication won&#39;t suit just any other pub.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your comment lived, Paula! :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re smart to leave one foot outside the circle, so to speak. I think they haven&#039;t quite earned back the trust. The new editor is a help, but I&#039;d bet there comes a point he stops listening to her, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Valerie, maybe that client will eventually drop her and find you again. I highly doubt she&#039;s being straight with her clients if she&#039;s not straight with you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment lived, Paula! 🙂</p>
<p>You&#39;re smart to leave one foot outside the circle, so to speak. I think they haven&#39;t quite earned back the trust. The new editor is a help, but I&#39;d bet there comes a point he stops listening to her, too.</p>
<p>Valerie, maybe that client will eventually drop her and find you again. I highly doubt she&#39;s being straight with her clients if she&#39;s not straight with you.</p>
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