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		By: Sara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori, Great blog post, but I was tickled when I saw what you&#039;re reading.  &#034;Devil&#034; is one of my FAVORITES.  I was actually so inspired by the book, I did a lot of extra reading on my own. I even landed an assignment for an historical market because of it. Are you loving it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, Great blog post, but I was tickled when I saw what you&#39;re reading.  &quot;Devil&quot; is one of my FAVORITES.  I was actually so inspired by the book, I did a lot of extra reading on my own. I even landed an assignment for an historical market because of it. Are you loving it?</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2010/06/concessions.html#comment-5699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Straighten them out good, Devon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ruthibelle, it&#039;s like saying to your doctor &#034;Sorry, I&#039;m still sick, so I&#039;ll pay you when you make me better.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paula, I&#039;ve had clients calling blog posts &#034;articles&#034;, too. It&#039;s then that I question when and where it will be used. Blog posts require a different style and voice than articles. And a different price. Articles are more in-depth. If they&#039;re using it as an article, not only are they doing their readers a disservice, they&#039;re intentionally misrepresenting the project to me. And they now owe me at my article rate. (And so far, I LOVE the book.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s the issue, Courtney. I&#039;ve worked with this client for five years. First time ever this has occurred, which makes me wonder if it&#039;s the start of a trend (thank you, recession). I won&#039;t tolerate it. I can&#039;t. My business life depends on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good seeing you, Chuck! Sounds like a pretty raw deal you were served. As far as anything going in a recession, that job and those people would be GONE in my book!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straighten them out good, Devon.</p>
<p>Ruthibelle, it&#39;s like saying to your doctor &quot;Sorry, I&#39;m still sick, so I&#39;ll pay you when you make me better.&quot;</p>
<p>Paula, I&#39;ve had clients calling blog posts &quot;articles&quot;, too. It&#39;s then that I question when and where it will be used. Blog posts require a different style and voice than articles. And a different price. Articles are more in-depth. If they&#39;re using it as an article, not only are they doing their readers a disservice, they&#39;re intentionally misrepresenting the project to me. And they now owe me at my article rate. (And so far, I LOVE the book.)</p>
<p>There&#39;s the issue, Courtney. I&#39;ve worked with this client for five years. First time ever this has occurred, which makes me wonder if it&#39;s the start of a trend (thank you, recession). I won&#39;t tolerate it. I can&#39;t. My business life depends on it.</p>
<p>Good seeing you, Chuck! Sounds like a pretty raw deal you were served. As far as anything going in a recession, that job and those people would be GONE in my book!</p>
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		By: ChuckB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChuckB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It must be that auditioning or sampling without contract or commitment is now a common part of most creative processes.  Looks like it spills over into the realm of writing as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was recently offered a &#034;job&#034; selling ads for a new four color print publication.  I not only had to sell the ads but prep them for the printer and coordinate the entire advertising portion of the magazine with payment at publication, which is every 4 months, and at a commission rate determined by the amt of profit on the sale itself.  In these &#034;recessionary&#034; times I guess anything goes as long as someone does&#039;t have to actually pay the bill until it&#039;s more convenient. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chuck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be that auditioning or sampling without contract or commitment is now a common part of most creative processes.  Looks like it spills over into the realm of writing as well.</p>
<p>I was recently offered a &quot;job&quot; selling ads for a new four color print publication.  I not only had to sell the ads but prep them for the printer and coordinate the entire advertising portion of the magazine with payment at publication, which is every 4 months, and at a commission rate determined by the amt of profit on the sale itself.  In these &quot;recessionary&quot; times I guess anything goes as long as someone does&#39;t have to actually pay the bill until it&#39;s more convenient. </p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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		By: Courtney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Courtney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the beauty of a deposit. At least a portion of your time can be compensated that way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though, I don&#039;t always require a deposit for my long-standing clients. Hm, perhaps I should...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s the beauty of a deposit. At least a portion of your time can be compensated that way. </p>
<p>Though, I don&#39;t always require a deposit for my long-standing clients. Hm, perhaps I should&#8230;</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh! I forgot to say I have Devil in the White City, too - but I haven&#039;t started reading it. I have another book to finish first. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a very slow reader - I have tons of floaters moving all over the place, so eyestrain hits quickly, especially after being at a computer screen all day. (Seriously, my floaters remind me of looking through a microscope at lots of microscopic specks and lines darting around.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me know how you like the book!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I forgot to say I have Devil in the White City, too &#8211; but I haven&#39;t started reading it. I have another book to finish first. </p>
<p>I&#39;m a very slow reader &#8211; I have tons of floaters moving all over the place, so eyestrain hits quickly, especially after being at a computer screen all day. (Seriously, my floaters remind me of looking through a microscope at lots of microscopic specks and lines darting around.)</p>
<p>Let me know how you like the book!</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2010/06/concessions.html#comment-5692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a similar situation last week. a company had asked me to ghost write a blog post. 100-300 words. The guy gave me specific stats and info to include that supported his central idea. To ensure I wrote in his rather distinctive style, I included exactly what he said and how he said it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was waiting for him before he got to his office the next day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Upon reading it, he decided he hadn&#039;t given me a very good idea to start with - it was thin. (He also keeps calling blog posts &#034;articles.&#034;) He complimented my writing, and said they&#039;ll be in touch when they have something more substantial for me to do. He also assumed he didn&#039;t have to pay for it since he didn&#039;t use it. Not wanting to get into a hassle over a cheap blog post and damage a new relationship, I said, &#034;Good thing I was going to offer the first one as a freebie, anyway. But that was a one-time offer.&#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously: What other professionals only get paid if and when their product is used? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like you said Lori: an occasional concession is okay. But we have to make it clear when they are concessions so we don&#039;t set negative precedents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar situation last week. a company had asked me to ghost write a blog post. 100-300 words. The guy gave me specific stats and info to include that supported his central idea. To ensure I wrote in his rather distinctive style, I included exactly what he said and how he said it.</p>
<p>It was waiting for him before he got to his office the next day.</p>
<p>Upon reading it, he decided he hadn&#39;t given me a very good idea to start with &#8211; it was thin. (He also keeps calling blog posts &quot;articles.&quot;) He complimented my writing, and said they&#39;ll be in touch when they have something more substantial for me to do. He also assumed he didn&#39;t have to pay for it since he didn&#39;t use it. Not wanting to get into a hassle over a cheap blog post and damage a new relationship, I said, &quot;Good thing I was going to offer the first one as a freebie, anyway. But that was a one-time offer.&quot;</p>
<p>Seriously: What other professionals only get paid if and when their product is used? </p>
<p>Like you said Lori: an occasional concession is okay. But we have to make it clear when they are concessions so we don&#39;t set negative precedents.</p>
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		By: Ruthibelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruthibelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[when it becomes a habit that the writer&#039;s invoices become optional, it&#039;s time to insist on payment and rethink the relationship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AMen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when it becomes a habit that the writer&#39;s invoices become optional, it&#39;s time to insist on payment and rethink the relationship. </p>
<p>AMen</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2010/06/concessions.html#comment-5688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I may well be having a similar conversation with one of my editors very soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I may well be having a similar conversation with one of my editors very soon.</p>
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