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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen, amen, amen. Great system, Georganna! I think it&#039;s sensible. I have a minimum, too. I never advertise it. I just quote it as my minimum charge when the quote goes out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, amen, amen. Great system, Georganna! I think it&#39;s sensible. I have a minimum, too. I never advertise it. I just quote it as my minimum charge when the quote goes out.</p>
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		By: Georganna Hancock M.S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Georganna Hancock M.S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, Lori. You always ask such challenging questions ... and set the bar so high!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Color me &#034;chicken&#034; because if I raise my rates, I don&#039;t say anything to anybody, even repeat offenders/clients.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently I decided to institute a two-hour minimum rate for any, ANY job. If someone asks, I&#039;ll explain why I&#039;m charging &#034;so much&#034; for even a simple task like proofreading a five-page report. It takes the same amount of time to handle the ancillary work for any size job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ALL my time is valuable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I try to avoid working for friends. It never ends well for the friendship, in my experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lori. You always ask such challenging questions &#8230; and set the bar so high!</p>
<p>Color me &quot;chicken&quot; because if I raise my rates, I don&#39;t say anything to anybody, even repeat offenders/clients.</p>
<p>Recently I decided to institute a two-hour minimum rate for any, ANY job. If someone asks, I&#39;ll explain why I&#39;m charging &quot;so much&quot; for even a simple task like proofreading a five-page report. It takes the same amount of time to handle the ancillary work for any size job.</p>
<p>ALL my time is valuable.</p>
<p>I try to avoid working for friends. It never ends well for the friendship, in my experience.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Diane, cheeky indeed! I&#039;d say they don&#039;t really value you. I&#039;d remind them of what they&#039;ve already gotten. They have a freelancer who gives them what they want when they want it and how they want it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane, cheeky indeed! I&#39;d say they don&#39;t really value you. I&#39;d remind them of what they&#39;ve already gotten. They have a freelancer who gives them what they want when they want it and how they want it.</p>
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		By: Diane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I ask for a raise, I don&#039;t just say &#034;we&#039;ve been together for a while, now&#034;, I also say &#034;I&#039;ve already been providing you with this, this, this and this, I&#039;m always on time, you never have to sub my work, and I also do this above and beyond the original remit.&#034; I was working a regular gig for years and years and years and not had a single pay rise in all the time. When I finally got around to asking for the raise, they asked: &#034;Well, what are we getting extra for that extra payment?&#034;. Cheeky so-and-s. Cost of living or reliablity isn&#039;t sufficient reason any more, or not over here at least.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I already turn down work that&#039;s less than £100/1,000 (apx $200). I don&#039;t usually charge hourly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I ask for a raise, I don&#39;t just say &quot;we&#39;ve been together for a while, now&quot;, I also say &quot;I&#39;ve already been providing you with this, this, this and this, I&#39;m always on time, you never have to sub my work, and I also do this above and beyond the original remit.&quot; I was working a regular gig for years and years and years and not had a single pay rise in all the time. When I finally got around to asking for the raise, they asked: &quot;Well, what are we getting extra for that extra payment?&quot;. Cheeky so-and-s. Cost of living or reliablity isn&#39;t sufficient reason any more, or not over here at least.</p>
<p>I already turn down work that&#39;s less than £100/1,000 (apx $200). I don&#39;t usually charge hourly.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wendy, I hear you. I&#039;ve had to talk myself into getting assertive with the friendly ones, too. One in particular was the joking kind, but he wasn&#039;t anywhere near my actual fee. Alas, I did not leave him laughing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hear you, Devon. :)) I know. I have to leave that job. I do have some income issues first, then I&#039;m outta there, other gig or not. My game plan is this - clear the holidays, then approach the client asking for appropriate compensation. I already know they&#039;re going to turn me down. Yes, it may be P/A too, but I think it&#039;s a clear message that we value our skills more than we value a dead-end job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kimberly, read what Devon said. It&#039;s exactly what&#039;s going on. Open yourself up and the universe will provide. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great reasoning, Paula. I think that fifty bucks was a nice goodwill gesture on their part, and I love that you gave one in return.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, I hear you. I&#39;ve had to talk myself into getting assertive with the friendly ones, too. One in particular was the joking kind, but he wasn&#39;t anywhere near my actual fee. Alas, I did not leave him laughing.</p>
<p>I hear you, Devon. :)) I know. I have to leave that job. I do have some income issues first, then I&#39;m outta there, other gig or not. My game plan is this &#8211; clear the holidays, then approach the client asking for appropriate compensation. I already know they&#39;re going to turn me down. Yes, it may be P/A too, but I think it&#39;s a clear message that we value our skills more than we value a dead-end job.</p>
<p>Kimberly, read what Devon said. It&#39;s exactly what&#39;s going on. Open yourself up and the universe will provide. 🙂</p>
<p>Great reasoning, Paula. I think that fifty bucks was a nice goodwill gesture on their part, and I love that you gave one in return.</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One place I&#039;ve been writing for since the mid-90s already pays between 70-cents and $1 per word, but about a year ago when I did the math on one assignment it came in around 50-cents a word, so when the editor asked if the fee was okay (which she always asks), I asked for more. The editor said their freelance budget had been slashed, so paying more for that piece would mean less left for the next assignments. At first I was annoyed, but then I did the math on my other pieces for the same issue (one of which had been assigned much earlier), and when I averaged them out it was 75-cents per word, overall. Given the budget slashing, that wasn&#039;t bad. The editor later offered to add another $50 to the fee for that piece, but I actually declined. Why turn down an extra $50? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) If $50 is enough to break the bank, you need another job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) It showed that I&#039;m loyal - and someone they&#039;ll be more inclined to hire for future assignments. (In fact, since then they&#039;ve actually assigned some pieces I didn&#039;t even have to pitch.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) I made my point: I noticed the rate had dropped.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know what? It worked. And now that advertisers are starting to come back, they&#039;ve been paying me slightly more for the same length articles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides, it&#039;s a market I&#039;d hate to lose. It&#039;s a prestigious, award-winning glossy, with fun assignments that let me speak in depth with people I&#039;d never otherwise meet. They pay decent rates, and they pay faster than any other place I&#039;ve ever worked for. Often within 10-14 days of invoice. (Bonus points that their checks show a very familiar icon/logo so new bank tellers often look at it and say, &#034;Is that what I think it is? And why are they paying you?&#034;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One place I&#39;ve been writing for since the mid-90s already pays between 70-cents and $1 per word, but about a year ago when I did the math on one assignment it came in around 50-cents a word, so when the editor asked if the fee was okay (which she always asks), I asked for more. The editor said their freelance budget had been slashed, so paying more for that piece would mean less left for the next assignments. At first I was annoyed, but then I did the math on my other pieces for the same issue (one of which had been assigned much earlier), and when I averaged them out it was 75-cents per word, overall. Given the budget slashing, that wasn&#39;t bad. The editor later offered to add another $50 to the fee for that piece, but I actually declined. Why turn down an extra $50? </p>
<p>1) If $50 is enough to break the bank, you need another job.</p>
<p>2) It showed that I&#39;m loyal &#8211; and someone they&#39;ll be more inclined to hire for future assignments. (In fact, since then they&#39;ve actually assigned some pieces I didn&#39;t even have to pitch.)</p>
<p>3) I made my point: I noticed the rate had dropped.</p>
<p>You know what? It worked. And now that advertisers are starting to come back, they&#39;ve been paying me slightly more for the same length articles.</p>
<p>Besides, it&#39;s a market I&#39;d hate to lose. It&#39;s a prestigious, award-winning glossy, with fun assignments that let me speak in depth with people I&#39;d never otherwise meet. They pay decent rates, and they pay faster than any other place I&#39;ve ever worked for. Often within 10-14 days of invoice. (Bonus points that their checks show a very familiar icon/logo so new bank tellers often look at it and say, &quot;Is that what I think it is? And why are they paying you?&quot;)</p>
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		By: Kimberly Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimberly Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For me it was comfortable to go for the &#034;sure thing.&#034; Funny thing is whenever I sell myself short in terms of pay, somehow the job becomes more complicated than I counted on which leads to stress, resentment and kicking myself for a bad decision. The learning curve regarding pay has been challenging for me at times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it was comfortable to go for the &quot;sure thing.&quot; Funny thing is whenever I sell myself short in terms of pay, somehow the job becomes more complicated than I counted on which leads to stress, resentment and kicking myself for a bad decision. The learning curve regarding pay has been challenging for me at times.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I ask for more when, in reality, I want to leave the job but don&#039;t have the guts to just walk away.  It&#039;s very passive aggressive, and I&#039;m better about being upfront about what I really want from a job than I used to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know I&#039;m a big believer in leaving any sort of job that no longer fulfills you on BOTH economic and creative levels.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we wanted soul-sucking jobs, we wouldn&#039;t be freelancers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plus, you have to LET GO of what doesn&#039;t work BEFORE there&#039;s room for something better to come along.  There&#039;s this myth that you find the new job before you leave the old -- it rarely works that way.  Sometimes the Universe wants to test your belief in yourself.  And you have to make that leap -- the Fool Card in the tarot deck -- in order to land where you&#039;re really supposed to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I ask for more when, in reality, I want to leave the job but don&#39;t have the guts to just walk away.  It&#39;s very passive aggressive, and I&#39;m better about being upfront about what I really want from a job than I used to be.</p>
<p>You know I&#39;m a big believer in leaving any sort of job that no longer fulfills you on BOTH economic and creative levels.  </p>
<p>If we wanted soul-sucking jobs, we wouldn&#39;t be freelancers.</p>
<p>Plus, you have to LET GO of what doesn&#39;t work BEFORE there&#39;s room for something better to come along.  There&#39;s this myth that you find the new job before you leave the old &#8212; it rarely works that way.  Sometimes the Universe wants to test your belief in yourself.  And you have to make that leap &#8212; the Fool Card in the tarot deck &#8212; in order to land where you&#39;re really supposed to be.</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oy, my weakest area has to be when I become friends with the person. After working for them for a long period of time, it just seems to happen naturally. It’s hard to say no or to ask for more when I start seeing the person as somewhat of a friend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s funny, when I start working for someone, and I don’t know them all that well, I have no problem saying no or putting my foot down on the rate. It’s just when I’ve worked for them too long that it becomes a problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, my weakest area has to be when I become friends with the person. After working for them for a long period of time, it just seems to happen naturally. It’s hard to say no or to ask for more when I start seeing the person as somewhat of a friend.</p>
<p>It’s funny, when I start working for someone, and I don’t know them all that well, I have no problem saying no or putting my foot down on the rate. It’s just when I’ve worked for them too long that it becomes a problem.</p>
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