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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I meant $1/article. Sheesh, don&#039;t type before caffeine takes hold! LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant $1/article. Sheesh, don&#39;t type before caffeine takes hold! LOL</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2009/09/open-letter.html#comment-3721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Travis, in theory we agree totally. :) My point of this entire thread was based on the previous thread, where I got upset with writers who DON&#039;T charge enough. In the writing profession, as I can only assume in the design profession, there are bottom feeders - writers who will work for nothing or close to it - and those people are killing our profession. Worse, they&#039;ve instilled in clients the mentality that hey, writing isn&#039;t anything special because this clown or that fool will do it for $1/word. This post is aimed at both parties in this travesty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, you&#039;re correct. Vetting clients is essential. I&#039;ve done it for years and I&#039;d hope all writers do. But apparently, they don&#039;t, because too often I hear writers saying &#034;I got them to pay me $20 for the gig!&#034; Wow. Twenty bucks to work for two days. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And again I ask where their paper hat is, for what job is paying more at that point?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yes, we agree. :))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis, in theory we agree totally. 🙂 My point of this entire thread was based on the previous thread, where I got upset with writers who DON&#39;T charge enough. In the writing profession, as I can only assume in the design profession, there are bottom feeders &#8211; writers who will work for nothing or close to it &#8211; and those people are killing our profession. Worse, they&#39;ve instilled in clients the mentality that hey, writing isn&#39;t anything special because this clown or that fool will do it for $1/word. This post is aimed at both parties in this travesty.</p>
<p>However, you&#39;re correct. Vetting clients is essential. I&#39;ve done it for years and I&#39;d hope all writers do. But apparently, they don&#39;t, because too often I hear writers saying &quot;I got them to pay me $20 for the gig!&quot; Wow. Twenty bucks to work for two days. </p>
<p>And again I ask where their paper hat is, for what job is paying more at that point?</p>
<p>So yes, we agree. :))</p>
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		By: Sarah Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Lori &lt;br /&gt;Loved this. I&#039;m putting together a comic strip based on the trials and tribulations of being a copywriter. I&#039;ve gathered loads of &#039;bad client&#039; stories from the tweeps on Twitter but I&#039;m always looking for more. If you&#039;ve got any funny stories to tell please send them my way. sarah.turner@turnerink.co.uk. I can name check you in the cartoon. Or you may want to remain anonymous! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Sarah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lori <br />Loved this. I&#39;m putting together a comic strip based on the trials and tribulations of being a copywriter. I&#39;ve gathered loads of &#39;bad client&#39; stories from the tweeps on Twitter but I&#39;m always looking for more. If you&#39;ve got any funny stories to tell please send them my way. <a href="mailto:sarah.turner@turnerink.co.uk">sarah.turner@turnerink.co.uk</a>. I can name check you in the cartoon. Or you may want to remain anonymous! </p>
<p>Sarah</p>
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		By: Travis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with your letter and your assessment, for the most part.  However, I think you&#039;re being a little hypocritical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Every professional should vet clients. You have to. Don&#039;t work with clients you feel will not appreciate your services and your expertise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having said that, you can&#039;t necessarily tell a client they are absolutely wrong when they don&#039;t feel a higher priced copywriter or more expertly written content will improve their bottom line.  Or perhaps maybe it will but not enough of a return to justify the investment. You and I probably know that this isn&#039;t ideal.  We both know content should be a priority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the same time, I&#039;m a web developer and designer and I could easily charge you with the same lack of attention to investing in a real domain, a real brand and the design/development that contributes to a real internet presence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If my client told me they were just going to use Blogspot rather than pay my rates, I would be disappointed and disagree with their valuation of my services/expertise, but I would have to assume that they understand their bottom line more than I do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being a sales person is 90% (more?) of essentially any business, especially professional services like writing, designing and developing. Our jobs are to sell the client or potential client on why our expert opinions matter and that our services realistically contribute to their bottom line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lori, in the end I think we agree but perhaps I look at it from a slightly more business-screwed angle.  I&#039;d hire you, anyway :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>
<p>I agree with your letter and your assessment, for the most part.  However, I think you&#39;re being a little hypocritical.</p>
<p>Every professional should vet clients. You have to. Don&#39;t work with clients you feel will not appreciate your services and your expertise.</p>
<p>Having said that, you can&#39;t necessarily tell a client they are absolutely wrong when they don&#39;t feel a higher priced copywriter or more expertly written content will improve their bottom line.  Or perhaps maybe it will but not enough of a return to justify the investment. You and I probably know that this isn&#39;t ideal.  We both know content should be a priority.</p>
<p>At the same time, I&#39;m a web developer and designer and I could easily charge you with the same lack of attention to investing in a real domain, a real brand and the design/development that contributes to a real internet presence.</p>
<p>If my client told me they were just going to use Blogspot rather than pay my rates, I would be disappointed and disagree with their valuation of my services/expertise, but I would have to assume that they understand their bottom line more than I do.</p>
<p>Being a sales person is 90% (more?) of essentially any business, especially professional services like writing, designing and developing. Our jobs are to sell the client or potential client on why our expert opinions matter and that our services realistically contribute to their bottom line.</p>
<p>Lori, in the end I think we agree but perhaps I look at it from a slightly more business-screwed angle.  I&#39;d hire you, anyway 🙂</p>
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		By: Eileen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori, I think part of the problem with perceptions about the quality of editorial writing is that it&#039;s not directly measurable by the publisher. There&#039;s no direct relationship between the writing quality and the publisher&#039;s profits; they&#039;re usually paying more attention to things like ad revenue. Declining circulation or readership can be blamed on many things, not just poor writing. So if corners are going to be cut, it makes an easy target.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But with copywriting (I know, I sound like a one-note instrument), especially in my field of direct response, it&#039;s measurable. We test which headline pulls better, which lead got more response, which copy converts to more sales, etc. Copywriters who make money for their clients are highly valued and compensated accordingly (most of the time; we get our share of deadbeat prospects, too).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, I think part of the problem with perceptions about the quality of editorial writing is that it&#39;s not directly measurable by the publisher. There&#39;s no direct relationship between the writing quality and the publisher&#39;s profits; they&#39;re usually paying more attention to things like ad revenue. Declining circulation or readership can be blamed on many things, not just poor writing. So if corners are going to be cut, it makes an easy target.</p>
<p>But with copywriting (I know, I sound like a one-note instrument), especially in my field of direct response, it&#39;s measurable. We test which headline pulls better, which lead got more response, which copy converts to more sales, etc. Copywriters who make money for their clients are highly valued and compensated accordingly (most of the time; we get our share of deadbeat prospects, too).</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2009/09/open-letter.html#comment-3716</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually Eileen, Paula hit on what I was referring to - magazine rates have remained the same for decades. Sorry not to be more clear on that! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jill, excellent point. My reference was to two different types of projects, but yours is a very valid point. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wendy, doesn&#039;t it suck that the very people who need to care don&#039;t? It baffles me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Eileen, Paula hit on what I was referring to &#8211; magazine rates have remained the same for decades. Sorry not to be more clear on that! </p>
<p>Jill, excellent point. My reference was to two different types of projects, but yours is a very valid point. </p>
<p>Wendy, doesn&#39;t it suck that the very people who need to care don&#39;t? It baffles me.</p>
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		By: Wendy		</title>
		<link>https://wordsonpageblog.com/2009/09/open-letter.html#comment-3715</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also think that a lot of marketers don&#039;t really care what kind of quality they get. They&#039;re just looking for content they can slap up on their site. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If they can get it cheaply; they&#039;re going to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that a lot of marketers don&#39;t really care what kind of quality they get. They&#39;re just looking for content they can slap up on their site. </p>
<p>If they can get it cheaply; they&#39;re going to do it.</p>
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		By: Jill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;In one case, you actually said you couldn&#039;t see the difference between one form of writing and another.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this is a significant part of the problem. Professional writers and editors can tell the difference between poor writing and good. Many others simply cannot. They think that &#034;anyone&#034; can write--after all, we can all write sentences in English, right? That&#039;s why our skills aren&#039;t valued as much as they should be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>In one case, you actually said you couldn&#39;t see the difference between one form of writing and another.</b></p>
<p>I think this is a significant part of the problem. Professional writers and editors can tell the difference between poor writing and good. Many others simply cannot. They think that &quot;anyone&quot; can write&#8211;after all, we can all write sentences in English, right? That&#39;s why our skills aren&#39;t valued as much as they should be.</p>
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		By: Paula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen, Sister Lori! (Please, please, please post this at CPWA, too.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eileen, when Lori said rates hadn&#039;t gone up in 15+ years, I think she was referring to the industry standards clients consider when hiring one contractor over another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But a similar message can be sent to magazine editors: Don&#039;t expect the best when you pay the least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Sister Lori! (Please, please, please post this at CPWA, too.)</p>
<p>Eileen, when Lori said rates hadn&#39;t gone up in 15+ years, I think she was referring to the industry standards clients consider when hiring one contractor over another.</p>
<p>But a similar message can be sent to magazine editors: Don&#39;t expect the best when you pay the least.</p>
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		By: Eileen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; &lt;b&gt;That rates haven&#039;t gone up in the 15+ years I&#039;ve been at it &lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great letter, Lori. It&#039;s what we all would like to say to our clients. But I have a nit to pick. &lt;b&gt;We set our own rates.&lt;/b&gt; So if rates haven&#039;t gone up in 15 years, who is responsible? We are, for accepting less than we&#039;re worth. I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again: that&#039;s why I write copy, not editorial. It&#039;s much easier for copywriters to set and get the rates they want than editorial/article writers, who let the publication set the rates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> <b>That rates haven&#39;t gone up in the 15+ years I&#39;ve been at it </b> </i></p>
<p>Great letter, Lori. It&#39;s what we all would like to say to our clients. But I have a nit to pick. <b>We set our own rates.</b> So if rates haven&#39;t gone up in 15 years, who is responsible? We are, for accepting less than we&#39;re worth. I&#39;ve said it before and I&#39;ll say it again: that&#39;s why I write copy, not editorial. It&#39;s much easier for copywriters to set and get the rates they want than editorial/article writers, who let the publication set the rates.</p>
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