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		By: vfdvgf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if <a href="http://www.gamcc.com" rel="nofollow">wow gold</a> and <a href="http://www.gamcc.com/Maple-Story/" rel="nofollow">maple story mesos</a>  wow gold</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the responses, everyone. Kim, the day is May 15th, and here&#039;s what you can do - go to that forum and post a comment educating those people. They&#039;re totally clueless about their own industry. Then point them here and I&#039;ll give &#039;em a little more hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THAT is what I&#039;m talking about - crazy notions that we have to accept what a pseudo-employer is paying. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chuck, I believe the Writer&#039;s Union does exactly that. I&#039;ve been tempted to join in the past, but I&#039;ve not decided which writing association is the best fit for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lauren, great plan. :)) They&#039;re good until they run out of organs, at which point, no more problem for us! LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the responses, everyone. Kim, the day is May 15th, and here&#8217;s what you can do &#8211; go to that forum and post a comment educating those people. They&#8217;re totally clueless about their own industry. Then point them here and I&#8217;ll give &#8217;em a little more hell.</p>
<p>THAT is what I&#8217;m talking about &#8211; crazy notions that we have to accept what a pseudo-employer is paying. </p>
<p>Chuck, I believe the Writer&#8217;s Union does exactly that. I&#8217;ve been tempted to join in the past, but I&#8217;ve not decided which writing association is the best fit for me.</p>
<p>Lauren, great plan. :)) They&#8217;re good until they run out of organs, at which point, no more problem for us! LOL</p>
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		By: Kimberly Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimberly Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you! Just tell me when and I will make sure to recognize the day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was lurking around a writers forum a couple of weeks ago, and a writer posted asking for feedback and advice about raising her rates from $10 an article. There were over 24 responses and only two supported raising rates. The others basically told her that she should be more realistic and not look a gift horse in the mouth. Talk about depressing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you! Just tell me when and I will make sure to recognize the day. </p>
<p>I was lurking around a writers forum a couple of weeks ago, and a writer posted asking for feedback and advice about raising her rates from $10 an article. There were over 24 responses and only two supported raising rates. The others basically told her that she should be more realistic and not look a gift horse in the mouth. Talk about depressing&#8230;</p>
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		By: Lauren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lauren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori, I agree with you, but I&#039;m not fretting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heard of the Darwin Awards? Evolution always wins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone living off $3 per blog post will soon need to harvest their 2nd kidney, any day now actually.... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Problem solved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, I agree with you, but I&#8217;m not fretting. </p>
<p>Heard of the Darwin Awards? Evolution always wins.</p>
<p>Anyone living off $3 per blog post will soon need to harvest their 2nd kidney, any day now actually&#8230;. </p>
<p>Problem solved.</p>
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		By: Chuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems to be that writers could easily be included in some craft union, and when in conversation with a potential client one could refer to a published pay schedule that&#039;s mutually acceptable to most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chuck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be that writers could easily be included in some craft union, and when in conversation with a potential client one could refer to a published pay schedule that&#8217;s mutually acceptable to most.</p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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		By: Katharine Swan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katharine Swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, I know what you&#039;re saying, Devon.  I just think it&#039;s a tougher pill for them to swallow right now, which would explain why some of us are hearing more protests of &quot;Why should I pay that when I can get it for...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am definitely NOT saying we shouldn&#039;t hold the line, just that I think the low-bidding writers are able to have more of an impact on clients&#039; expectations in the current economy.  But to me, that&#039;s even more of a reason why we need to convince MORE writers to hold the line right along with us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know what you&#8217;re saying, Devon.  I just think it&#8217;s a tougher pill for them to swallow right now, which would explain why some of us are hearing more protests of &#8220;Why should I pay that when I can get it for&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am definitely NOT saying we shouldn&#8217;t hold the line, just that I think the low-bidding writers are able to have more of an impact on clients&#8217; expectations in the current economy.  But to me, that&#8217;s even more of a reason why we need to convince MORE writers to hold the line right along with us.</p>
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		By: Devon Ellington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devon Ellington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Katharine, when they do get what they pay for -- low quality for low pay -- because we hold the line -- they come back to us at their usual rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s happened several times in the last few months.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It wound up costing them more because they paid crap, they got crap,and then they had to pay me to fix it.  At my rate + the aggravation fee.  And they get the quality with me for which they pay and then they don&#039;t complain the next time I quote them my rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My clients cover a wide geographic range.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katharine, when they do get what they pay for &#8212; low quality for low pay &#8212; because we hold the line &#8212; they come back to us at their usual rate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s happened several times in the last few months.</p>
<p>It wound up costing them more because they paid crap, they got crap,and then they had to pay me to fix it.  At my rate + the aggravation fee.  And they get the quality with me for which they pay and then they don&#8217;t complain the next time I quote them my rate.</p>
<p>My clients cover a wide geographic range.</p>
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		By: Katharine Swan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katharine Swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huh.  There was supposed to be a couple of hard returns in there.  Interesting...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry for the confusing long paragraph.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  There was supposed to be a couple of hard returns in there.  Interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for the confusing long paragraph.</p>
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		By: Katharine Swan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katharine Swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ABSOLUTELY with you, Lori!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;I&gt;I know many writers believe that letting the writers with no scruples take these jobs is keeping them out of direct competition with the rest of us. I used to think that was true. Now, I&#039;m seeing how the actions of the unsure are about to come crashing down on all of us.&lt;/I&gt;I think it was true in a better economy, but now that our economy is suffering clients are starting to think, &quot;Hey, if XYZ company can get their writers for X amount, why shouldn&#039;t I be able to, too?&quot;  When money is tight, they are just not as willing to accept the &quot;Pay more for better quality&quot; approach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABSOLUTELY with you, Lori!</p>
<p><i>I know many writers believe that letting the writers with no scruples take these jobs is keeping them out of direct competition with the rest of us. I used to think that was true. Now, I&#8217;m seeing how the actions of the unsure are about to come crashing down on all of us.</i>I think it was true in a better economy, but now that our economy is suffering clients are starting to think, &#8220;Hey, if XYZ company can get their writers for X amount, why shouldn&#8217;t I be able to, too?&#8221;  When money is tight, they are just not as willing to accept the &#8220;Pay more for better quality&#8221; approach.</p>
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		By: Irreverent Freelancer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irreverent Freelancer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh man, I was just having this exact same debate with someone on a freelance message board I visit. Looking forward to a second Writers&#039; Worth Day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, I was just having this exact same debate with someone on a freelance message board I visit. Looking forward to a second Writers&#8217; Worth Day.</p>
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